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Nik©
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 21:27
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What is the problem i don’t understand?
if u trying to say this records have poor mastering ...hmm i don’t know about all i just checked Nabi compilation 148 , its mastered by Xenomorph i don’t think he got paid only 200 Euro for that ... but even if he did , this cd has pretty good mastering , i don’t see any problem
Labels like Nabi records and Ketuh records, Kagdila give chance for upcoming artist to get known...
And besides all, artist makes that decision to sell their tracks to labels for the price that they negotiate...
Now why do u , Mr. code red think u can just trash all those labels , when u have no idea what u are talking about ?
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Pavel
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 21:29
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I don't buy compilations. I just don't. Only seldom chill out compilation or stuff like Unusual Suspects 2 from Twisted Records which wasn't that great either.
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Liquid-Vision
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 21:35
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some of my favorite labels, most of which release some of the best music these days
some of the best recent releases have been compilations, more so to my taste than most albums which came out this year
Code Red WTF are you talking about?
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Chlamydia Jones
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 22:43
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its frustration man, let the dude fan out his steam in the forum, since that's the only place he can bitch - in public open forum where every kid can make claims without being responsible directly for them.
In your first list (the negative one) you mentioned some of the labels with the best sound around (no names, go figure that out for yourselves).
And what's wrong with paying good money to hard working artists? It was claimed here many times (more acurately "bitched about") that artists cannot live off their productions because they're underpaid - well, here's the answer.
And dont go claiming that 'the real good artists' dont get paid - when the 'real good artists' (which is a matter of taste) start making 'real good music', they will be paid by the 'real good labels' (who probably want to keep their money for music they believe is worth it, not some amaturish crap).
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Code Red
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 23:14
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Yahel, Skazi, Alien Project and Mr. Lerger Than Life are just some of the names that were on Phonokol covers. I dont mention people like Mark Allen due to respect to him. Phonokol is not the problem here in any case anyway.
P_Mac your main problem is in the music you release and not the mastering, and not only that but you keep release a compilation every month or something like that, ofcourse Compact is the champion in that releasing a music cd every two weeks with the same people and crappy music.
ND said it, stop flooding the scene with music that has nothing to offer apart from bad quality and recycled ideas.
Chlamydia if the labels mentioned in the first list are the labels with the best music around then the problem is geting bigger all the time and people have totaly lost the sense of psychedelic trance music.
The problem is that every day there is a new label in the promotional part of this forum with a crappy compilation of nine artists that probably beg this crappy label to release their music so that they can get famous in the future. All this situation kills the serious labels and artists that get lost in the crowdy crappy scene that is being created for some time now. How can you choose a good cd out of 100 bad ones? How can you track down good releases from good labels when every day the internet shops are flooded with new releases from unknown labels and unknown artists? You just cant and this just turns me crazy. |
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 23:25
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Code Red just stop buying these cd's
stop fund the fuckers and they'll die with time
Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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Chlamydia Jones
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 23:36
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read more carefuly - the labels with the best sound production, not best music. there's a huge difference between the two.
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I kinda agree with you on this one, only for me its all those little labels who release the dark/murder/crazy trance - releasing REALLY bad quality sound and music that (for my ears) is not even worth of exporting to wav out of the sequencer.
So you see? quality of music is a matter of taste, and your statement is a double-edged sword.
And as for your statement about Com.pact's 'same people and crappy music' - well, I guess their artists are very productive and they think its good enough to be released. Who are you to say this or that music is crap? I myself don't like most of their music too, so I simply don't buy it. Calling it 'crap' is silly, since its a matter of taste and your taste is no better than anyone else.
luv,
Chlamydia
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 23:44
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your music? really? I thought music was for everyone...
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Proper reading can help to avoid conflicts 
"our music"
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Chlamydia Jones
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 23:46
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"YOUR" can be read as singular and plural. The aim was for the later. |
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 23:50
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Right. U are part of 'our' if 'our' stands for the psytrance-listener or psytrance-lover. U can decide the meaning of it for urself.
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Chlamydia Jones
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 00:01
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so let me get this straight:
at first he says OUR music (which means a selected community of people who consider themselves the 'true psy people'), then complains that the commercial labels release crap that ruins the 'scene' and is totaly not 'psy'.
So, if these bad labels are releasing non-psy music, how can they possible effect the true psy producers? why isn't Code red complaining to Chemical Brothers or Virgin records (who obviously pay much more for their music, hence have much more bad effect on the music)...
Sorry for being thick here, but there is a contradiction that should be explained. Maybe the whole definition of psy should be reviewed and these offensive labels (shame on you) would be removed from this forum and not allowed to show their greedy Avatars in our beautiful, pure and -small- comunity.
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 00:29
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Your, Our, whatever fight it out in PMs willya?
In response to what Kiro said:
I for one would rather hear better music produced less well than less good music produced better. At times i think a somewhat rough production sound can actually add some guts to the music... not always tho
Its an artistic choice if someone wants to focus their time and $$ resources on compostion and sound design or mixing and mastering... both are artistically valid choices. |
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 00:44
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so if all those labels are bad, which labels are good??
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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 01:02
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BMG, Universal, Virgin records
u can occasionally find a Jimi Hendrix album or something... ROFL
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clown
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Posted : Jun 15, 2005 01:53
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The same problem is happening here in Montreal, only not with CD releases, but with parties.. there are two parties every weekend here, plus all the afterhours clubs open regulary.. then, when a good party with a headliner comes to town, the people are so burnt out from all the previous weekends, that the party flops and promoters lose tons of money..
I think Code Red has a point, but just expressed himself a little harshly and people are missing his point.. Which is "too much isn't the best solution".. Take Boshke beats for example.. They release a compilation every 4 months about, and when that compilation comes around, the people are SO in need of good quality techtrance, that im sure he breaks record sales everytime. Now, if boshke released a compilation every month, im sure that same techtrance fan would end up not buying every other release. Now, imagine if there were 50 other techtrance labels releasing a compilation every month. That makes 51 new techtrance releases to choose from.. what does that equal?? boshke beats loseing tons of money because of the high compitiion rate and DEMANDE will decrease for techtrance. lucky, that's not the case with techtrance music, seeing as how there are only about 6 serious techtrance labels around. But in full-on, there are 9027837802750 different labels releasing stuff like there was no tomorrow. So basically, Code Red would like for all those labels he mentionned ("the one's that don't pay there artists" . Quote taken from Isratrance forums) to maybe start investing in the scene and stop thinking about there own pockets..
am i close?? 
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