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IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Nov 25, 2010 07:00
by the way RIP           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
pete
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Posted : Nov 25, 2010 07:16
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On 2010-11-23 03:34, Basilisk wrote:
Some articles to throw into the discussion:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/jun/09/games-dvd-music-downloads-piracy
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/us-government-finally-admits-most-piracy-estimates-are-bogus.ars

The rule in business is this: innovate or perish. The music industry has failed to innovate much at all. This is particularly true of the underground music industry which seems to take its cues from the major labels despite having drastically different market conditions: different audience, different needs, etc. Where is the innovation in the underground?

What do we have to show for the last five years? CompactStick, which is a complete joke. Paid MP3 downloads that cost more per unit than when the music was sold on CDs and less selection overall. Beatport "exclusives" creating artificial scarcity, adding no value to the customer. Operators like Thomas Vitali building empires from the husks of fine old labels like Plusquam by spamming the shops with endless re-releases, hoping that something will sell (and don't get me started on PsyNina). Labels hardly bother with keeping their own sites updated and seem largely unaware of any new social media options aside from the MySpace ghost town. The major mail order shops haven't updated their designs in 5-8 years and none of them provide RSS feeds or maintain a presence on Twitter (which, of course, countless pirate blogs manage to do). No, the industry as a whole seems limited to hawking CDs and guilt-tripping everyone for not buying in despite a huge increase in the supply as represented by the number of active artists and labels.

There are some exceptions, of course, but true innovation in this scene is hard to find. At least that is better than the alternative, which is this disappointing fixation on wishing things would go back to how they were and criticizing fans and listeners for doing whatever they're going to do anyway.

And hey, we still go see live music and we still go to the cinema. It's experiences that people want, and the old media monopoly on the distribution of cultural goods is over. Time to adapt!




Anybody have any thoughts on the pay-in advance model, as seen with the new Bluetech/Kilowatts album, etc?           http://soundcloud.com/herbert-quain
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Posted : Nov 25, 2010 20:06
@Detox, could you please share the source of the data, I have pretty difficult time finding those figures around the internet.

The only figures I found for video games industry are in this report:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/08/video-game-industry-growth-runs-circles-around-us-economy.ars

While the sales between 2008 and 2009 in fact dropped in the US, 2006 -2008 have very high growing rates, and taking in to account global recession its not that bad.

There is not enough evidence to say video game industry is in decline in the long run. So stops saying you are saying the true.
          "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
DETOX
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Posted : Nov 25, 2010 20:54
http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_Essential_Facts_2010.PDF

Official statement by the Entertainment Software Association.

And please dont call me more or less a liar because i get irritated.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 01:31
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On 2010-11-25 20:54, DETOX wrote:
http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_Essential_Facts_2010.PDF

Official statement by the Entertainment Software Association.

And please dont call me more or less a liar because i get irritated.




i didnt say you are a liar, just that you arent saying the truth.

So, I found a report by the same organism and both reports clearly show that after a 4 year of growth the period between 2008 -2009 saw a decline in sales, and its not surprising since we were at an economic crysis.

By the way there is not an statement on future prospects for the industry on that report.



          "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
DETOX
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 02:56
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On 2010-11-26 01:31, Login wrote:

i didnt say you are a liar, just that you arent saying the truth.




I hope you understand that you are also calling me stupid when you say such things.....

Our discussion is over since a wise man once said to me to not engage in a dispute with idiots since they will drag me down to their level and beat me out of experience.

Oh and because i used this expression i dont mean that you are stupid ofcourse.......          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Outolintu
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Posted : Nov 27, 2010 13:18

"don't call me stupid"... brings back some memories





          "no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby
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