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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 19:30
Friend gutter a small respect for all these "vlakes anarchists" den tha elvapte...
university its a free space for all ideas and not (only) for parties!
university is one of the last free spaces on the cities without police into them, cameras, blocks etc...
i know my post its a bit asxeto with the topic but i think that i'm one between some of these "vlakes" who have some political ideas a bit different frm some others and i 'll fight for more and more free spaces...
alloimono an to university is only for parties or only for political activities...university for me its an open self-managed free space and every time the people orizoun their activities....
sorry for my shit english...
again all the best for your parties, everywhere!!!
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bricktop


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Posted : Oct 22, 2007 21:51
best places for happenings are unfortunately outside greece...           one toke over the line sweet jesus :>
gutter
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 10:03
... i think i was misunderstood , cause when you write is not like talking facetoface ... first im not against anarchists , i ve involved in incidents me too .. please ,, im not a psy-fascist ,, hope you understand that..
My question:
Who is to blame that the fucking cops have NOW the authority to abrogate the asylum , break in Pane and arrest whoever they want with the new law they made ????..
I know people who make molotof before they go to Pane .. What the fuck man ??
Why ??
So ,, they put everyone in danger , and even more the organizers of the party ...
these are the stupids cause they have made such a mess and gave the police & the state an excuse to break the asylum ...
AND please dont get angry with me ..
Why do i have to respect people that they dont respect me ?? or the organizers OR just the fucking party .. this is my point of view ..
Maybe i have only a friday or saturday night to go out and have fun and i love to go to paries , i love psychedelic trance & want to have fun and relax and not run away from busting my ass neither eat tear gases upon my face ...
I hope i clarified my words and bound the kind of persons i call stupids ...
.. and those stupids can stay the hole fucking week from monday morning till friday and blow the university in the air ,, and not mess a hole party just for their own pleasure ...
DETOX
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 13:54
Quote:

On 2007-10-23 10:03, gutter wrote:
.. and those stupids can stay the hole fucking week from monday morning till friday and blow the university in the air ,, and not mess a hole party just for their own pleasure ...



So sad to read that some people feel that a party is more important than a university,they dont care if the university gets destroyed but they care if the weekend party becomes a mess.

Gutter you asked who is responsible to get blamed for the new laws that gives to police the permission to enter the university and arrest everyone they think is dangerous for the university,well you better look in the mirror mate...           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
gutter
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 14:17
... I JUST SAY WHY THE FUCK SHOULD WE GIVE A REASON TO COPS AND OTHER MOTHERFUCKERS TO COMPARE THE PARTIES WITH THE ATTACKS AMD THE STONE-MOLOTOF-THROWING GAME ... NOW EVERYONE IS AFRAID TO MAKE A PARTY TO THE UNIVERSITY FOR THAT REASON ... AND WHY DONT THE MPAXALAKIDES GO TODAY OR FUCKING TOMORROW TO MAKE WHAT THEY WANT ... GUESS THEY PREFER TO GO ON A SATURDAY MIDNIGHT THAT FEW PEOPLE GATHER THERE TO CHILL&DANCE ... WHO DO YOU THING YOU ARE TO TELL ME TO LOOK AT THE MIRROR ?? YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE SAYING.. I LOVE THE UNIVERSITY & WHAT IT REPRESENTS .... YOU'D BETTER WASH YOUR FACE BEFORE START READING&REPLYING CAUSE YOU DONT THINK WHAT YOURE SAYING ,,,,, MATE ...
Jedi_knight
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 15:46
Does anyone know what the "new law" says exactly?

I think that the police in order to enter the university and arrest people must have the permission from the rector(pritanis) or the headmaster of the university...

If anyone knows for sure please reply.
virava


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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 16:08
Quote:

On 2007-10-23 14:17, gutter wrote:
WHO DO YOU THING YOU ARE TO TELL ME TO LOOK AT THE MIRROR ?? YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE SAYING..



don t pay too much attention to such -at least- rude posts mate. it s something detox uses to do all the time and especially to new members.

detox you see again that your behaviour creates a mess..
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DETOX
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 16:40
Gutter people dont do parties anymore in the universities because not only this is not the purpose of the university but also because its impossible to protect a free event in such a place.On every party in the university something happens,teams of foreigners beat and steal people who go there to have fun,fights break up between the people or between the people and the police,the police throws tear gas in the area putting in danger the health of everyone participating in the party,the students have problems studuying or sleeping or whatever because of the noise,people use the university area to make money just like some "wise guys" who sell illegal copies of cds to the people who go there for the party and many many more.The police received many complains about this situation (not to mention the sad events that took place in Thesaloniki where people got seriously injured and public property was stolen and destroyed) and very wisely along with the university authorities decided to stop allowing such events in the university area,not that it really allowed them in the past but thats another story of how these events were taking place.

Good will and intentions are always welcome but a free party is always free for everyone and when something is free it can attract all sorts of people good and bad and unfortunately parties in universities attract quiet a lot of bad people who find the opportunity to get lost into the crowd and do their dirty things.Thats why the "mpaxalakides" like you called them dont go there during the week days but only on party weekends to create problems and fights,simply because the crowd provides them a protection and anonymity.

As about who i am,well i guess i am a nobody with just a humble opinion,just another tax payer like most of us in here i guess including you if you work for a living,it doesnt matter who me or you is,what matters is what each of us says and you clearly said (no matter how hard you try to cover things up now) that you care to have fun during the weekends and that the mpaxalakides can stay the rest of the days in the university and blow it up in the air,these are your words and you should be ashamed about them instead of trying to cover things up and telling me to wash my face and think before i speak up,dont worry about me mate my mind is working fine so far and i take care of my personal hygiene every single day.

You love the parties and not the university,you love the asylum and not what the university represents,these are your words and i feel very sad about them and you.

The funniest of all though is that although you love the parties you call the very same people who organise them 'vlakes anarchists' so my friendly advise towards you is to make up your mind first before entering a public discussion.

P.S Virava what i saw again is you trying to be the lawyer of another user in here,if my post was rude (can you please actually show me the point where i was rude or offensive or whatever?) then your action is even more rude because you degrade Gutter's ability to explain and defend himself in a discussion.We dont need lawyers in here neither do i need someone,especially you,to tell me about my behavior.

Show me where i was rude in my last post otherwise apologise.
          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
virava


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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 17:52
you have to understand yourself where you were rude, otherwise, what are you doing here with 234 started topics and 5000 posts?

but you continued with spoiling and lies.
so you show us what you are doing here..

keep going
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DETOX
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 18:54
Not only i was rude (i asked you to point me where but because you didnt have anything to say you just avoided the question) but now i am also a liar?

I wont even bother asking you where i lied since for once again you will avoid the question as usual.

I hope one day i can ask you the same questions in personal and i hope you will have some answers then.

Till then have fun.
          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
virava


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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 20:37
since you know you don t need to ask. i said what i had to.

as for personal conversation, i don t have any problem but it s about the same..           -_-_-_-_-_-_

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virava


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Posted : Oct 25, 2007 05:55
detox mate, i m sure you know where your being wrong! you just have to admit it.

feel free to do so..
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Oct 25, 2007 09:29
I think there is a big misunderstanding about the real purpose of a psychedelic party...

A psychedelic party is not just a party.
It's not only for fun.
It's not only for music and dancing.

It's the expression of a movement.
A movement with values and ideas and political extensions.

A movement that has the potential to change the modern capitalistic way of life.
A movement that generates a global community.
A revolutionary movement.
A spiritual movement.
It's an inner and outer journey of the soul.
And many many many things more...

So the university is the ideal place for such activities but we have to re-establish these activities in order to have the above meanings.

This is the real problem:
WE ARE LOOSING THE REAL MEANING OF PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE... (besides the music)



Jedi_knight
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Posted : Oct 25, 2007 09:43
Maybe we have to start a new topic about this
subject...
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gutter
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Posted : Oct 25, 2007 11:44
DETOX unfortunately you are a liar and yes youre spoiling my words ....

DETOX says:
"You love the parties and not the university,you love the asylum and not what the university represents,these are your words and i feel very sad about them and you."

i wrote :I LOVE THE UNIVERSITY & WHAT IT REPRESENTS ... ( just read the post above to see what i wrote )

DETOX wrote:
"you call the very same people who organise them 'vlakes anarchists' "

OK DETOX then you tell me that all the organizers of the parties are declared anarchists and while the party is on ,, they go in OULOF PALME and throw molotof and stones to the cops .....

MAYBE YOU ARE SO ANNOYED BECAUSE YOU DO THAT...IF YOU DO THAT ,,, THEN KEEP DOING IT MATE BUT I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR YOU , YOU SPOIL THE COMMUNITY AND DONT RESPECT THE OTHERS ....
(do you prefer this kind of replying?? your way)

the conclusion is that DETOX know me better than myself and recreates my opinions the way he likes ... THANK YOU DETOX for making my life easier in isratrance ....

AND what i understood is that DETOX felt very disturbed and offended when i wrote "stupid anarchists" and my biggest mistake was this,, that i wrote the word "anarchists" ..

OK THEN... ALL THE PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE SCENE IN ATHENS CONSIST OF ANARCHISTS AND I HAVE TO SAY IM SORRY I WROTE THIS FUCKING WORD ....

you wrote all whole paragraph about a lot of people and incidents that make bad actions and are dangerous for the party .... and you're annoyed when i write about "anarchists" who are mainly responsible for the states permission to the police to break in the university WITHOUT prosecutors attending ....

I STILL BELIEVE THAT THESE PERSONS (HOPE ITS OK WRITING "PERSONS" ,, OR IS IT DISTURBING YOU THIS WORD ALSO ???) ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MISERY ,,I HAVE FRIENDS AMONG THEM, I FEEL ANGRY ABOUT THEIR ACTIONS,,, AND I CALL THEM VLAKES WHENEVER I FUCKING WANT DETOX ...

ACCEPT IT AND DONT CRY LIKE A BABY NEITHER TRY TO SPOIL MY WORDS ... PEOPLE HAVE EYES AND SEE ... YOU ARE NOT THE ONE AND ONLY DETOX..




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