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Pirated Tunes vs. Cracked Software

TRapp
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 10:36
ok thought i would run this by you South African boys...cos i have been pondering this and wouldnt mind some input...

Alot of Artists bitch about having their music pirated and ripped etc and distributed among people who ultimaterly listen and enjoy the music but dont often or ever bother to buy the CD to support the artists.

Do artists have the right to bitch about this if alot of them are using cracked software...Cubase, Reason, VST plugins etc....which are worth alot of money and have had alot of people working alot of man hours to make these glorius programs and ultimaterly giving the artists the ability to produce what they do??

Was just wondering what everyone elses thoughts are on this issue....
mr_sparx
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 10:44
Good point !!!
Lets hear it from the artists ??
how many original licensed products are you using to write the music that you love ??
shift
Shift

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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 11:06
its a bit if a catch 22 really

when u earn enough money to buy the stuff u will

those programs are damn expensive - so u gotta release a lot first to cover that cost and your living expenses - i'm slowy builing up my collection of paid for software,,, but its hard when new stuff comes out all the time,,,

strat with windows,, its not so expensive and will help your machine work better if u get the updates etc,,
then i guess its the sequencer u use most,, so buy that next,,, and then maybe u can get onto vst's and stuff later,,, but my point is that its really expensive and hard to afford at first,,, so a proccess of legalising is necessary and inevitable if u do well with the music u make


slug
Slug

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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 11:18
i agree, its only fair to pay for this stuff, especially if you making money from it...

so, I guess u can't complain that people burn your music, when you pirate other ppl's stuff.

and what about the music that musicians listen to or play in DJ sets ... is it all legal ... no .. not all of it .. so it's really hard to complain.

For someone in my position, I believe that pirating of CDs is going to actually make me more income (in a roundabout way), rather than take it away.

You gotta ask yourself .. was that guy / girl actually going to buy my CD if he/she couldn't pirate it? Mostly, no. If they were going to pay for it, they probably still will .. not always, but often.

Lastly - having lots of your work put on the Net as MP3s - now THAT can be a bit irritating.
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 23:22
Well said gents, I couldn't agree more...           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
TRapp
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Posted : Mar 4, 2005 08:37
i think the important point is what you said shift in when the cash is there to actually invest in the software etc to actually buy it then, also i would agree with slug on the fact that ripped music = exposure....i suppose all the software companies just has to hope all the people using there software(illegally) become successful so they can make there cash back , haha...

just wish hardware wasnt so expensive in south africa ;(
Prisma


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Posted : Mar 4, 2005 12:51
another thing about getting mp3s, is the unreleased stuff, you cant get those on cd until they eventually come out, any views ?
slug
Slug

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Posted : Mar 4, 2005 13:12
not really. many artists don't distribute any unreleased stuff as MP3 (or any stuff at all as MP3). Its usually on CD / WAV format. Someone they gave that CD to has usually MP3'ed it somewhere along the way
mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Mar 4, 2005 23:16
I try to send out stuff as wav files as opposed to mp3s to people. I figure, if you want the unreleased track that much, you might as well get it at the quality that artist has it in and you might as well be willing to wait as long as the download takes. If someone has my music and I gave it to them, that's perfectly alright. They are at least going to be appreciative of the fact that I gave them music. I have issues being Mp3 trading fodder for the latest Skazi or something along those lines. I feel that many of those types of people if given the chance wouldn't even bother to tell the artist if they liked their stuff or not.

I am a firm beleiver that as soon as one can afford the software, you should indeed purchase it. I started by purchasing windows, but I use Logic. Kind of a moot point to purchase software that isn't updated on that platform. My new mission is to buy a Mac and buy Logic with it... ( I know I could just as easily buy cubase, but it doesn't seem to like me very much)           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
DJSarasin
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Posted : Mar 7, 2005 10:04
I agree with Slug.

If you releasing a track on a label.....and they pay you......thats it right?

If it gets pirated its not you thats loosing money initially......and having your track spread on the net or pirated IS getting you more exposure.

But what about further down the line when you own your own label.....pirating then becomes a problem to me .
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