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Phasing issues and mixing in mono

Grevinsky
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Posted : Oct 29, 2012 16:44:50
Hello wise people of isratrance!.
I am improving my mixing skills, and start too check more often how my tracks/synths sound in mono.
With the current track im working on i have a fat lead which i made really wide and fat trought stereo widening and stereo delay.
Well the problem now ofcourse is that in mono the lead sounds thin and stiff.

How much do you take in account with the phasing issues?.
Should i lessen the stereo widening or change technique to achieve it and still have a steady mono picture.
Or should i consider that in most environments its going to be played in stereo and i dont need to take it in too much account.

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Martian Arts

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Posted : Oct 29, 2012 17:34
I stopped caring about mono systems recently.
I haven't been to a party that had a mono system in years + internet radio stations are mostly stereo now anyways (the ones that are decent at least).           
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Oct 29, 2012 18:16
funny, when I wrote this some time ago, no one agreed with me
correlation meter is my guideline

i don't put sounds to -1 (antiphase). ok, maybe sometimes SFX and similar stuff, but not drums & main leads.
i don't care about phase issues
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MuckyPuh
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Posted : Nov 5, 2012 21:14
it depends what your music is for ...

if it should be played in the radio or be pressed to vinyl you should care about mono compatibility

also some clubs still have mono systems as its easier to just place a lot of speakers and let them all play the same

but i dont see people nowerdays caring to much about it ..           http://www.muckymusic.blogspot.de/
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Upavas
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Posted : Nov 5, 2012 22:37
I don't give a flying fuck about Mono capability. My message to party organizers and radio/TV stations is: Get on with it, this is the 21st century!!!           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 5, 2012 23:03
for dancefloors music you may check Left and right translation too.
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Posted : Nov 7, 2012 17:22
I'm a bit surprised to hear how many people here don't care about mono compatibility.

Over on the dogsonacid board (mainly DnB related) there was a thread like this recently and most serious producers seemed to care about it quite a lot stating that most clubs they play at still use mono sound systems...

I myself haven't really cared about it, but I also haven't released anything or played anywhere live
SafeandSound
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Posted : Nov 8, 2012 17:35
Certainly in the UK it is VERY important for D&B artists as many of the London based pirate stations which break new artists are mono transmissions. So unless you want your music to lose bottom end, and the mix to change balance you had better take it seriously.

Cannot recall a Psy trance FM station broadcasting in stereo (or even mono for that matter, being a niche genre) but I have found that people who do not care about mono compatibility are often missing the grasp of a fundamental audio concept.

I don't believe there is a single good reason to not check compatibility. Bottom line is you cannot predict how any given PA is set up or whether your track gets played on FM radio (which often sums to mono in weak signal areas) You will kick yourself if you don't check it.

You have nothing to lose and something to gain.

cheers

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daark
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Posted : Nov 8, 2012 17:48
A phase is a picture of another dimension to the sound energy i try to use it artisticaly same as amplitude or the frequency spectrum I try to leave antiphase to where it belongs and better to not make any problems because specialy very audible ones because after it is a costy repair.
And why not make it sound good as possible on all systems? And it helps to clean the sound and understand how your track is built . Do it if it sounds better           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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