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neutron01


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Posted : Jul 28, 2002 15:00
anyone go to the Phantasm outdoor festival in upstate New York? How was it.

i am in London right now so no chance to go ... but Space Cat and Mindfield live! woo hoo! sounds like a good one, though it would be nice if more live acts were there.

so how was it? any reviews?           this sentence might be false.
Surrender
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Posted : Jul 29, 2002 15:57
Neutron01, I wasn't at this party luckily, but this is what someone wrote in BrainMachines about it... it seemed he is a little unhappy. Why dont we have good outdoor parties? cant someone get their act together and let us feel the magic that we feel in Israel?

"Top 10 reasons why the so-called party thrown by "Global Trance
Productions" and "Phantasm Records America" was a complete and total
SCAM:

1) The venue has transformed itself from a "120-acre private vacation
resort" into some trailer trash backyard about 15 miles away from the
original location. The route was marked with dimly-lit "OM" signs.

2) All food and water was confiscated at the door, even though there
was no mention of this on the flyer. Water was being sold inside at
$3 a bottle. Hamburger $4, hot dog $4. I've heard that some of the
confiscated food was being resold as well. Most people managed to
sneak at least some supplies in, but all jugs of water were taken.
I've spent close to $40 buying water at the party.

3) We were treated to an extra-special way-too-long set by DJ Yawni,
and then two sets by the Phantasm family, consisting mostly of hits
from the "Complete and Unabridged GMS Box Set". All musicians (the
Phantasms, Space Cat and one other dude with a Powerbook, who I guess
was Green Nuns) packed up and took off in an unknown direction around
11 am, leaving the DJ booth unmanned. I do not know if they ever
returned.

4) There were TWO port-a-johns (and no water WHATSOEVER apart from the
aforementioned $3 bottles) for (I'm guessing) 300 people who crammed
into that space for 2 nights. I do not know if the party "organizers"
ever planned to clean them.

5) They didn't allow any unauthorized fires in the camping area,
promising "one big bonfire" near the dancefloor. Somehow they've
forgotten to bring any firewood, however, and from 3 a.m. on they
kept feeding the fire with FRESHLY CUT YOUNG TREES.

6) Two unfortunate friends fell for the "private vecation cabins"
part of the scam. I guess the half-rusted trailer and shack were
supposed to play the part of those cabins. They're supposed to be
getting their money back.

7) The police came around several times during the first night. As a
result, the sound system was constantly playing at about 10% of its
volume. The cops promised to return around 2 or 3 a.m. the following
night and shut everything down, which I hope they did. This was the
first time EVER that I've welcomed the presence of uniformed police
officers at a trance party, since there was clearly a crime being
committed.

8) We took off on Saturday - as soon as the acid, which we've
foolishly taken the previous night, wore off. It was the single
worst bad trip in my life. I felt like I was on a downtown A train
on Monday morning. When we left, the gatekeeper notified us that
there is a $20 re-entry fee per vehicle. The fuckin' nerve he had.
He was lucky I had no heavy objects near my hands when he stuck his
face into our car. The first thing that I bought at the nearest gas
station was a big bottle of water, the tastiest Poland Spring I've
ever had.

9) My ticket #50 cost $95. A friend of mine bought tickets #201 and
#202 the day before "the show" at $105. A simple calculation shows
that the advance ticket sales were on the order of $20,000, and
that's discounting the many folks who bought tickets at the door at
$120, and that was BEFORE they were robbed of their food and water
supplies. Having organized trance parties before, I have a general
idea what a party with a $20,000 budget should look like; this wasn't
it. Basically, somebody pocketed our money.

10) It's hard to say who was behind all this, since no one in
particular seemed to be in charge. There were some people who looked
like the owners of the place and they weren't happy about what was
going on, either. There were a bunch of Israelis, with a varying
degree of shadiness, who might or might not have been the promoters.
The House of Trance crew was there, but sort of hung out on the
sidelines. I surely do hope that Phantasm Records had nothing to do
this great highway robbery, since I used to like the music they put
out. However, their name was plastered all over the flyer and they
owe us at least an explanation.


The only reason I bought my ticket to this party:

The 2nd House of Trance festival with John Phantasm and Goa Gil in
upstate NY in 2000 was amazing - good music, excellent organization,
great vibe. It was a great experience shared by almost the entire New
York trance tribe. Water and food was not taken away at the door.

The promoters of this weekend's party were very clearly riding the
wave of the 2000 festival and expectations were very high, judging by
the great crowd they managed to lure in. Too bad they had absolutely
no respect for our tribe. All they wanted was our money.

I guess I should have known better than going to a $100 party. Right
now I feel like never again going to a commercial trance party in New
York, unless it is organized by OmniTribe or Spectra. The trance
vibe here stinks, and it's definitely not because of the trance folks
themselves.

I'm disillusioned and outraged."           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
neutron01


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Posted : Aug 1, 2002 18:06
yes, i read all those posts on brainmachines as well. i was just curious if anyone had actually been there and seen the debacle enfold 1st hand.

yes, it's a shame ... what i wanna know is why can the fusion festival in california can cost $35 and have great music, etc. ... but this had to cost $100+!? are things really that much more expensive and fucked up in NY!?

well, i'm sorry that it turned out this way. i hope there will be better outdoor festivals in ny area in the future ...

bom!           this sentence might be false.
kowens
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  218
Posted : Aug 1, 2002 18:28
I am now outraged just by reading that review, I cant stand how some of the parties in the US are run, it is total bullshit to confiscate all the food and water, sorry to all the people that got sucked into that party my heart goes out to them.

gaiL
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Aug 5, 2002 03:52
i've been in that party, its all true
i heard there is a makeup party, but nothing will make me forget the orginaizers of that party -> Eli & global trance .
Candy
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Aug 5, 2002 08:54
Damn
So sad outdoor parties are turning out like this.

It's all about the $$$           Majority is never right!

"Without music, life is meaningless."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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