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orbit
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 03:40
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hey guys,
just searching for some tips and methods to tuning percussion. how does everyone do it?
do you just simply find the right sample that fits straight up?
or pitch up to tighten and pitch down to loosen the sample?
not all samples would be in c right?? so using the method of pitching the semitones on the sampler would not be effecient?? for example if im writing in say g and have a hi hat assuming its in c, i shouldnt go to the sampler and just simply pitch up 7 semitones to hit g or down 5 semitones to hit lower g??
is there any programs to tell what key a certain sample is in??
please share your methods when tuning percussion..
thanks in advance.
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XuN
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 05:00
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The best way is to find the sample you want, and then listen to it in different notes, while the track is playing...
Don't know about the program you are asking for though...
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OhmLine
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 17:30
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There are few samplers (Logic's EXS24 for example) that can read the pitch of the note/sound and place it on the root key for you.
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ansolas
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 18:03
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Hello,
Icedaudio.com AudioFinder has a Pitch detector.
You can even Tune the percussions untill they match, that how I tune my percussiuons. |
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psilonaut
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Posted : Feb 7, 2008 03:26
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In cubase if you right click on a sample then goto audio->spectrum analyser then select note rather than frequency at the bottom you can see what the dominate notes of a sample is.
Then I just tune the most predominate note of the sample to my bassline with the st control in battery.
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Martinlivet
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Posted : Feb 7, 2008 15:01
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Ok.
Anything 4 us that dont use Mac or cubase? |
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Suloo
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 11:15
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On 2008-02-07 15:01, Martinlivet wrote:
Ok.
Anything 4 us that dont use Mac or cubase?
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melodyne...stand alone version..just import any sample double click it and you see the note on the left..move it up or down to transpose and export again...very easy..
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 13:27
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Another way is to boost the root and fifth frequencies of the scale ur using in the perc. That will make it sound in tune.
U can also try boost the 3rd or 7th instead. |
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shachar
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 13:48
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train your ears to hear those out of tune parts. if your track is in G for example , it doesn't necessary means your hi hat should be in G also, play with different pitches and look for what sounds right to you.
-7 tones transpose can make really bad results with percussions and "suck out the life" & dynamics from your samples.
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orbit
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 14:59
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thanks for the comments guys. i do trust my ears but i always have in the back of my head that the same percussion sample MIGHT sound better if tuned better. i am really anal getting things sounding right. i think all in all you have to select the right sample in the first place and if you need to tune it should only be a little. yes i have noticed things sound terrible if transposed too much.
bukboy your idea is really good, itll be a good way to glue different samples together too
i had a good idea if unsure. get a sine wave happening on your root hitting on the same time as the sample, if you play with the transpose quickly you get a good idea if its sitting near. this method plus bukboys suggestion will work for me the best i think
mtz mtzz i tried that melodyne, but now im wondering if any programs are capable of accurately telling the tune. percussion has random harmonics. wouldnt it really confuse the app? |
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 15:11
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the best is with your ears ,what i do is tune my kick one octave higher with the bassline then i tune all drums to the kick.(it s even better if you get the kick bass already mixed when you tune the others drums ) |
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 8, 2008 17:33
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On 2008-02-08 13:48, shachar wrote:
train your ears to hear those out of tune parts. if your track is in G for example , it doesn't necessary means your hi hat should be in G also, play with different pitches and look for what sounds right to you.
-7 tones transpose can make really bad results with percussions and "suck out the life" & dynamics from your samples.
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yes, just play and listen and learn
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Feb 11, 2008 21:19
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Also pick samples that sound close without tuning. Some percussion samples just don't fit, no matter how much you tune them.
Picking good samples from the start will make the process of 'tuning the drum kit' much easier. |
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