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Percussion and Leads in fast HighTech!!!

Nitzhofreak
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 21:50:41
I asked myself if there is not so much/ simple percussion or am I just not able to hear it all.

Take this track for example:





I got another important question. These hard aggressive and fast Leads (I think FM) how does the structure of them look in a DAW(like Cubase) I got no Idea would be greatful about some tips.

Greetings from Germany
Bipolar
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Posted : Sep 22, 2011 22:09
nice track!
Trevon


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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 03:59
the leads are filling the high-freq range...

the leads: fast lfos.. short notes patterns, 32nd and 64ths, note slide, stutters..
hearttricks

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Posted : Sep 23, 2011 07:00
yeah there's no real formula... a mix of cybernetic and liquidy lead sounds... which most likely means a combination of stutters and filter sweeps, among others.. also intelligent use of delay.

shit that is a hectic tune. i like!
Icetoon
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Posted : Sep 25, 2011 12:46
same style lead in this song :





Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Sep 25, 2011 14:06


There nothing 'HighTech' here , Wake up from those bad illusions


1 . Try read this thread , Will help you alot :

http://forum.isratrance.com/why-is-low-bpm-better-than-high-bpm/


2 . Icetoon bring here an good example (With an similar style) , So i want you listen carefully the bassline of this track (And now to yours again) , So you may understand the all point (+ That you must work on your track before release it) . Both tracks here need better mix (Or i dont know - Maybe its the way of the ToyDark producers to keep the bass in the background when all the others sounds and tools are celebrating (+ Covering all down sounds) - This like 'Walk with & Feel without' , Mean everything is here and existing , But not in the right order of sounds , The right mix , All inverse , And this is not only the producer fault , This is also the 'Fault of the sounds' At this high bpm .


Most important (In music) Is air beetween sounds !

So you tell me what better :

Trrrrrrrrrrrrrr bass (This : ----------------------) With no power at all .. (Its just all in your mind m8 ..) , This is not powerful and theres nothing powerful in , This like an mosquito who pass near your ear , Thats all , No more . That is the most eazy thing to do . No/Any real/Special effect on the listeners - Inverse : You kill the sound ! .


psycox
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Posted : Sep 25, 2011 14:12













how to make fast mindblowing music over 15 years ago...
daark
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Posted : Sep 25, 2011 15:46
Quote:

On 2011-09-25 12:46, Icetoon wrote:
same style lead in this song :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0bsZjRuDlI

Warning: Some individuals can't percieve bass content!

Nice song , but i can't hear any special percs just the basic crash-h-oh-h-h-h-oh-h.
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Nitzhofreak
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Posted : Sep 25, 2011 19:29
thank for the useful comments, Does anyone of you got a picture of a piano roll doin such a crazy fm lead(only the main lead - I know that there is a lot of stuff in the background)
ansolas
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Posted : Sep 26, 2011 10:57
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Icetoon
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Posted : Sep 26, 2011 16:30
Hi mate. I struggled at the beginning to get leads like that too, it takes time. So I put together something to help you

Here's how a basic 1/32 note lead would look :
http://rghost.net/23120721

And here's how it sounds:
http://rghost.net/23120781

If you need help on making it pm me your skype or facebook details.

Peace
Icetoon
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Posted : Sep 26, 2011 16:44
Example two (just with a higher bpm and with more cutoff modulation) :
http://rghost.net/23122831
aciduss
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Posted : Sep 26, 2011 19:00
Quote:

On 2011-09-25 14:06, Cardinals Cartel wrote:


There nothing 'HighTech' here , Wake up from those bad illusions


1 . Try read this thread , Will help you alot :

http://forum.isratrance.com/why-is-low-bpm-better-than-high-bpm/


2 . Icetoon bring here an good example (With an similar style) , So i want you listen carefully the bassline of this track (And now to yours again) , So you may understand the all point (+ That you must work on your track before release it) . Both tracks here need better mix (Or i dont know - Maybe its the way of the ToyDark producers to keep the bass in the background when all the others sounds and tools are celebrating (+ Covering all down sounds) - This like 'Walk with & Feel without' , Mean everything is here and existing , But not in the right order of sounds , The right mix , All inverse , And this is not only the producer fault , This is also the 'Fault of the sounds' At this high bpm .


Most important (In music) Is air beetween sounds !

So you tell me what better :

Trrrrrrrrrrrrrr bass (This : ----------------------) With no power at all .. (Its just all in your mind m8 ..) , This is not powerful and theres nothing powerful in , This like an mosquito who pass near your ear , Thats all , No more . That is the most eazy thing to do . No/Any real/Special effect on the listeners - Inverse : You kill the sound ! .




+1000

SuperSK


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Posted : Sep 27, 2011 11:31
hey cardinals cartel,... is it possible that you are from germany? - i think i've heard your artist name in the local scene...

???

nice greets
aciduss
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Posted : Sep 28, 2011 00:54
Sorry I was just having fun

I'm a peaceful, respectful person IRL but sometimes I like to make fun of how seriously some peeps take the internerds.

As much as I dislike +160 bpm music I respect if someone wants to do so. I mean anyone can do anything even if they want to call trance music a 7 minute trainwreck of anxious glitchy noises and nonsense sampling be my guest and enjoy yourself

I will still stare to infinity questioning God why some people enjoy creating and listening to undanceable noise that has no melody / harmony that rely on presequenced fast bursts of highpassed noise and still call it music

But hey, that's MY problem. xD trololol





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