psyviz
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Posted : Mar 31, 2010 22:48:46
Hi guys and girls this is a song i made and i think its pretty good. I do think i might change the intro one day.. anyhoo Hope you enjoy
Kind Regards
Anthony
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Posted : Apr 2, 2010 03:14
the intro is boring.
the bassline is too dull. all your midrange sounds should be louder. your open hh also.acttualy i would have search better sample for the open hh and for the snare as well. more sounds and variations of sound would be welcome here. one more melody as well and more groove elements.
beside it, at the artistic view of the track. your track doesn't develop to anywhere. play new sounds, new melodies, new groove. some uplifts, dowlifts, breaks.
i think you should take this track and from around 3:00, develop it, with new direction.
sorry that i wasn't gentle, it's 3:00 am here and i don't have energy to judge my words. still i hope i helped with my critic. critic make us think and make better tracks and sounds!
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 2, 2010 21:34
Ja i Know the intro is boring Thanks for reminding me i usually try a little harder at making a nice intro but i am always in a bit of a rush to Finnish a track.... I sometimes feel like its really hard work to work on a song and i love to work but my neck and back give in quite easily i have some irregularities Anyhoo... No excuses, I think i can try make a few changes for the bassline some time in the near future... Regarding uplifts this is still a challenge for me as i am still trying to figure out how to make those really long rising sweeps Any tips would be appreciated, Regarding breaks i try not to have to many as quite a few of my hard core Psytrance friends say they prefer to have the beat going for as long as it can and they all tell me that my song could have a bit more variety regarding sound stabs and effects i am also trying to make a unique signature for myself. Well thanks for your advice oh and the speakers that i use are not really helping me at all i only have a old LG HighFi 25 wats so thats why my mids are a little low, witch i have noticed when playing my songs on different sound systems so final mastering and mixing is still to come.. Thanks and i look forward to here from you
ArcaneInquisitor
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 01:23
The only problem I have with it is the bass, it is definitely overpowering. Balance that out, bring in a key change and some kind of melody near the end and I think your aces.
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 13:33
Thanks ArcaneInquisitor your advice is definitely going to be noted.. As my little speakers lack low frequencies that is why my bass is so over powering i can definitely lower the bass and i would agree with you as well as dj chichke so dropping the bass and letting the mid frequencies come out a little more is a great idea, About an extra melody i do think it needs one too no doubt. Thanks a million and i will try do these changes sometime during the week... BIG THANKS TO ALL THAT HAVE REPLIED SO FAR
ArcaneInquisitor
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Posted : Apr 5, 2010 23:05
I remember some of the first stuff I ever made with software synths. All I had was some crappy headphones (and only demos so all the tracks were recorded as a live mix with my sound card looped back on itself to record what I am hearing). Nowadays when I listen to those tracks the balance is insanely bad. Booming distortion on the low end, harsh painful sound on the leads (since I would be trying to adjust parameters while mixing the songs and kept fucking stuff up, and usually crashing the software in the middle of a recording).
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 11:32
I here you ArcaneInquisitor I do find that my sounds are extremely rough and not as hi tech as most productions i do not have the problem of my daw crashing but i have a feeling that if my speakers had little bit of hi definition my sounds might sound smoother.. But i would also like to mention that its not good to blame the tools you use as some people can do more with less... i hope to make some changes to my track this afternoon if all goes well i did start to make another lead but my first attempts have not been successful.. I did the cubaseGuru Sound synthesis course so i have some nifty knowledge about synths Sometime its easy to learn but harder to work with what you know... i still have to find the time to do some final mastering and Eq-ing Anyhoo hope you have a great day or eve i will get back to you guys as soon as possible with some changes to to my song...
dj chichke
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 12:18
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On 2010-04-02 21:34, psyviz wrote:
Ja i Know the intro is boring Thanks for reminding me i usually try a little harder at making a nice intro but i am always in a bit of a rush to Finnish a track.... I sometimes feel like its really hard work to work on a song and i love to work but my neck and back give in quite easily i have some irregularities Anyhoo... No excuses, I think i can try make a few changes for the bassline some time in the near future... Regarding uplifts this is still a challenge for me as i am still trying to figure out how to make those really long rising sweeps Any tips would be appreciated, Regarding breaks i try not to have to many as quite a few of my hard core Psytrance friends say they prefer to have the beat going for as long as it can and they all tell me that my song could have a bit more variety regarding sound stabs and effects i am also trying to make a unique signature for myself. Well thanks for your advice oh and the speakers that i use are not really helping me at all i only have a old LG HighFi 25 wats so thats why my mids are a little low, witch i have noticed when playing my songs on different sound systems so final mastering and mixing is still to come.. Thanks and i look forward to here from you
uplitgs are quiet easy acctualy. kicks, snares and crashes hit together. mostly it's start with bigger resolution (hit every 1/4 bar for example) and then samller resolution and samller and samller and samller....
many times sweeps and white noizes are are joining to it. you can do find lot's of samples for it and you can make it easily. just coose any osc you want, put highpass on it and play with the cutoff. you can add also parts of your leads in the uplift. explore it...
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 15:03
Thanks dj chichke i will add a noise sweep or two i have been working on leads and have come up with something rather subtle but still quite rough i will try and post it some time today... )
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 20:33
Hi guys here is another sample let me know if i am getting there
I added 2 bass changes and 2 leads a noize sweep and another filtered sweep.
hope you like it.
dj chichke
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 01:38
the overall sound is much better. but i think your kick is not punchy enough and your open hh is not sounds too good, bright and punchy. the sound that comes in at 4:05 have to be highpassed.
i think you have to use more sounds and automate all the time the sounds. specialy at dark music.you play very few sounds. you do very few automations if at all, and you don't change the role of sounds at all. you should change from time the time the way the bassline change( it happens a lot at dark and sometimes even very surprisingly),the leads can change their role (different phrases and changes of sound), and acttulay all sounds can play another roles and you have too do it from time to time to few of the sounds. and it happenes in all kind of music. in some more changes and in some less, but at all genres and styles sounds get new roles during the track and not play the same role all the track. i think this what is art. not just copy paste your sounds all the track.
it's takes time to make pro music.i don't think that if i tell you something now you can make it from my words. and not from anybody's words. take your time and take my words as notes for your future tracks
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 13:56
Hi dj chichke thanks again for your notes i was thinking of side-chaining the kick to bring it out a little more but never got round to doing it.. as for hh i am still trying to get some nice ones i generally make or edit all my sounds through synths and tweaking EQ-ing and somtimes even a extra filter but i cant quite get a perfect hh.. a little more work is needed there.. i do use a bit of automation but not as much as i could. Regarding sound rolls my first two tracks were like you mentioned i never really played the same sound twice except for some stabs and sfx so i think i should go back to my roots a little.. I have no real music knowledge other than counting to 4 1234-1234. anyhoo i have only been making music for the past 6 months +- so i am rather pleased with my efforts. as i make all my sounds from scratch Thakns again for your time and words i will try to make future sounds have a bit more variety and i know i can, its just a matter of me not getting my brain in a tangle.. Only time will make my knowledge of production better.. Thanks again.
dj chichke
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 18:27
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On 2010-04-07 13:56, psyviz wrote:
Hi dj chichke thanks again for your notes i was thinking of side-chaining the kick to bring it out a little more but never got round to doing it.. as for hh i am still trying to get some nice ones i generally make or edit all my sounds through synths and tweaking EQ-ing and somtimes even a extra filter but i cant quite get a perfect hh.. a little more work is needed there.. i do use a bit of automation but not as much as i could. Regarding sound rolls my first two tracks were like you mentioned i never really played the same sound twice except for some stabs and sfx so i think i should go back to my roots a little.. I have no real music knowledge other than counting to 4 1234-1234. anyhoo i have only been making music for the past 6 months +- so i am rather pleased with my efforts. as i make all my sounds from scratch Thakns again for your time and words i will try to make future sounds have a bit more variety and i know i can, its just a matter of me not getting my brain in a tangle.. Only time will make my knowledge of production better.. Thanks again.
no problem. don't get offended from my words.
it's ok for 6 months of producing.
Psybro
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 18:43
Wicked raging vibes!
Bo0M!
psyviz
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 22:29
Thanks Psybro, I would still like to work on this song a bit more. thanks for the inspiration I hope i get to do it...
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Bo0M!