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Cannabis
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Posted : Feb 3, 2008 21:16

hey Folks

which Stock PC would you buy for music?

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acidkills
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Posted : Feb 3, 2008 21:45

Anyone thats fast, has much of ram and a big hard drive would do.. Sound card u buy separately so it doesn't matter when buying a pc..
It only depends on how much u can afford to spend on a pc..

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Mike A
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Posted : Feb 3, 2008 23:38

Quote:

On 2008-02-03 21:45, acidkills wrote:
It only depends on how much u can afford to spend on a pc..

Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 00:01

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On 2008-02-03 21:45, acidkills wrote:
Anyone thats fast, has much of ram and a big hard drive would do..

I disagree. Your much better of making sure you get quality components than highest possible spec.

Why would you buy a brand PC to use a DAW?

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Cannabis
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 01:11

coz it would be thoroughly tested by professionals
Not to mention of warranty and service.

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Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 03:39

If you by "Stock PC" mean something like a HP or DELL you'll find that very few professionals use those machines for a DAW.

There are brands specifically made for DAW use, but you will pay a fairly high premium for those.
You can ask any computer shop to assemble a machine according to you specification and by asking for some advice from producers it's not hard to find out what parts make up a really good DAW.

If your prime concern is as extensive warranty as possible DELL have very extensive service if you pay a premium for it, but of course all computer hardware come with some form of warranty.

vstDOG
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 16:47

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On 2008-02-04 01:11, Cannabis wrote:
coz it would be thoroughly tested by professionals
Not to mention of warranty and service.

Designing your own build is superior in so many ways...not to mention the satisfaction of knowing your puter's guts inside out and getting the most out of your money.

A good DAW requires quality components allround with the exception of GFX cards.
A $50 Nvidia or ATI will do the job just fine.
Many people tend to spend all their money on high end Motherboards, CPU's, RAM, etc... but are left with no budget for decent case, PSU and cooling.
You want your DAW to be fast, efficiant, reliable, silent and cool.

All components come with at least 12 months manufacturers warranty, some come with more.

In my opinion, the best thing for you to do is post a budget here and ask for help choosing the components. Once that's done shop around and find a computer store/system builder to put the box together for you. Some shops will build the system for you for free if you buy the components from them (you would normally pay a higher price for the parts). Or simply pay extra for the build cost.
The builder should normally provide you with basic service and activate warranty if something goes wrong.

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UnderTow

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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 17:08

Quote:

On 2008-02-04 01:11, Cannabis wrote:
coz it would be thoroughly tested by professionals

Yeah but not for Audio which needs very specific things that most people don't need (including gamers).

You CAN get good computers from Dell or HP but you have to know what you are ordering or you could get some nasty surprises...

UnderTow

Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 17:39

Some recommendations for parts:

Motherboard:
Gigabyte P35-DS3R or ASUS P5K-E

CPU:
Intel Q6600

Memory:
Corsair XMS2 6400 CL4 2x1Gb or 2x2Gb

CPU cooler:
Noctua NH-U12F

Chassi/PSU:
If on budget Antec Sonata with included PSU
Otherwise Antec p182 with corsair VX450 or HX520.

Hard Disks:
Seagate barracuda or Samsung Spinpoint for fast and quiet.

CD/DVD:
NEC is good, or if your budget allows Plextor.

Graphics:
Any cheap passively cooled PCI-E card if you don't plan to game with the computer.

Display:
I really think it's a good investment with a large quality display.
A few 24" models that is not too costly but that has quality PVA/MVA panels:
Hyundai W241D (I got one myself and is very happy with it, quite rare though in many places it seems)
LG L245WP-BN
Eizo FlexScan S2431W (has been reduced in price a lot lately, at least here in Sweden...still expensive but top quality)
Viewsonic VX2435WM

orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 21:48

mobo - gigabyte ga p35 ds4

cpu - Core 2 Duo 8400 s775/3,00

cpu cooler - u can get a cheap fixed watercooler with about 100$ and will provide u with very good cooling and very quiet or u can use air like the noctua mentioned allready or a thermaltake maxorb thats also good and quiet.

ram - corsair Ram 2GB Kit DDR2 800 4-4-4-12

psu - Corsair 550W CMPSU-550VXEU

hd - seagate barracuda or samsung spinpoint

cd/dvd - any but plextor indeed is better

graphics - connect 3d ati 3850 for quiet and gaming and cheap or any other totally silent but gaming is out of the question but cheaper.

box - Coolermaster Cosmos RC-1000... thats one hell of a good box and very.. VERY quiet.

display - not less than 22inch monitors lg for cheap and eizo for the best. go for 24inch if got the budget.

be sure to use rubber mounts on every hard drive for vibration absorbtion.

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Seppa

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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 22:56

Hehe !! I second Orange except for the mobo and the case.

case Antec Solo... you 'll thank me later.
Mobo Intel D975XBX2 most commonly known as Bad Axe 2.

not only intel motherboard have usually better performances than their fellow gigabyte but these are extremely stable.

The bad axe2 is the choice number one for whoever wants to build a hackintosh which are now easy to make tottaly reliable.

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be sure to use rubber mounts on every hard drive for vibration absorbtion

absolutly true. by the way the antec solo has them in it so no need to get some.but thats not it ! its got an elastic hanging system which you may choose to use or not. the solo is very very well made its the most robust of all antec. it is designed to cut the noise as much as possible and its has a stunning look. You got to have one to really tell. its really well made.

The sonata is good but not as good and antec psu sucks(too noisy). the sonata comme with psu unfortunalty which makes it more expensive than the solo. So in my opinion its really not worth it.

Couple the Solo with a noctua Nu-u12p heatsink and samsung hd and you gonna have a hard time hearing any noise coming out of your case. Well Thats if you follow orange psu's choice. which I might add, its the best fanned psu out there.

I'd opt for a q6600 they cost nothing anymore.Ram, if you get the badx2 then you can mount ecc ram for sever like stability . but the ram mentioned by orange and spin would be my choice number 2.

Hd: seagate and samsung have very similar performances but samsung are way more silent.
So my choice here would be samsung. they do both perform very well

PoM
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 23:23

for a quiet pc :
antec p 182 case
psu corsair HX520
ram Crucial PC8500 Ballistix 2048Mo DDR2 (2x1024Mo)
heatsink ninja rev 2 + 3 noctua fan ( 1 for cpu ,2 for the case )
cpu: q6600 or wait 2 months
drive : 2 samsung f1 320 giga (if they are out )in raid 0
graphic card without fan.
Motherboard :????
i think what was suggested by the others is very good too

orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Feb 5, 2008 00:07

the intel board doesnt support the new intel cpus thats why i choose the gigabyte... but even if they did i still would choose the gigabyte.

on the box side the antec is great vaery good and quiet but the cosmos is better trust i make studio pcs for work with antec cases and psu but for me the cosmos is the way to go (although the cosmos is more expensive).
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&id=2584

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81820

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orange
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Posted : Feb 5, 2008 00:14

but as i can see all 3 of us suggesting a pc we give almost the same setup so if anybody get one of these it would not go wrong

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Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : Feb 5, 2008 00:52

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On 2008-02-05 00:14, orange wrote:
but as i can see all 3 of us suggesting a pc we give almost the same setup so if anybody get one of these it would not go wrong

Indeed, the Intel board and Ninja heatsink that was mentioned also seems highly recommended.

I would maybe not bother with watercooling or PC8500 RAM. Unless you plan to do serious overclocking you will not get a more quiet or faster machine from it.
Btw overclocking is nowadays definitely an option even for a DAW.
For example with the Q6600 it's very easy to get a rock stable overclock around 3-3.2Ghz.
I run mine rock solid at 3.2Ghz, 400Mhz FSB and 800Mhz memory. And that's without hardly raising the voltage so it doesn't get hot.
So air cooling and 800Mhz RAM is definitely sufficient unless you manically want to try to hit 4Ghz or something.

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