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Posted : Mar 28, 2012 20:21:47
here is a short vid explained by 1 great practioners of ancient vedic practices from the himalayas:
you can also gain other knowledge about ancient vedic scriptures explaining patanjali's concepts which actually have gone into details of stuff like how to walk on water, fly, dissappear,telepathy and other properties a human body is capable of in its purest states of existance.also detailing various methods to walk the path,and various other detailed descriptions about the functionings of the forces acting upon the whole universe. this ancient knowledge in its current state exists in india, but are the oldest written scriptures in the world,basis of buddhism,and various other religions,and the core teachings are still unadultrated.
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Posted : Mar 28, 2012 22:53
the same beings, vid's on the yoga sutra's is an amazing discourse, and is a must watch if you are interested in it.so is his discourse on the mandukya upanishad which is considered the core teachings of the veda's and the upanishads,all combined in 1 scripture,and explores and details the path to freedom.
Thank you so much, for sharing this very educational speech, even as a reader of the Vedas, I think that this man has some valuable things to say. The path to Samadhi is long and wonderful, and by no means easy, one must be completely free from their ego.
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 09:52
Hm, but I did not find any explanation of how to work with the valuing concept of the mind, the concept of declaring as bad and good. I think, that it is a little bit "short" to only say, that one should be careful with declaring things as good and bad and that one should not identify with the mind. But how to achieve that? I did not find any answer in that video. Maybe he wants everybody to find his/her own way.
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you can also gain other knowledge about ancient vedic scriptures explaining patanjali's concepts which actually have gone into details of stuff like how to walk on water, fly, dissappear,telepathy and other properties a human body is capable of in its purest states of existance.
Oh, this sounds like hokus pokus or something to get new desciples. --- I start believing, if I see recordings
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Posted : Apr 11, 2012 16:23
^i dont give a shit if u believe it or not, i am just stating facts. what is written in these ancient scriptures. maybe thats all u want, is to see recordings,,, and never experience it for urself,, to experience all this for urself,, you have to have the disipline of a rock,patience and hardwork. and you think i would like to make a fool of myself by writting such things,,, and not being serious? i suggest u better do ur research before u open ur mouth,and discredit anything. i just wish more ppl to access this knowledge because its available to all of us,, and this knowledge is not indian ,, even the idnians agree that it came from elsewhere,origins unknown.what the core of this knowledge is still clean and unadultrated and one must..must do.
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Wow, you are really agressive. This is a forum. The function of a forum is to exchange opinions. And that was my opinion. Do you want to forbid my opinion?
And I didn`t even say anaything mean. I just said, that I don`t believe, that specific quote tow posts up, but I would believe it, if I would see recordings of such things. And that would be exactly the experience you are talking about. Because you just said, that one has to expereince. If I see it, I experience it. I am doing meditation myelf, so I am a practioner, but I just don`t believe, that people are able to walk over water and disappear. Anything bad with asking for a proove? You should check your logic and open-minded-nes my friend.
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its meaningless...you have your opinions i have none.how can i forbid anything or anyone,,i'm just a grain of sand on the beach,dont take whatever is expressed to heart my brother,but if i check your way of thinking, like you said, its a forum and everyone expresses his/her opinions,so i am doing the same. maybe my vocabulary is such it might seem agressive,,cause i know i am not even close to what a learned being is all about,i know it.
now u speak that only if u see some video, you will experience it.. so whatever is shown in vid's and written is books,, you r storing and calling it your own experience? to experience is to do it yourself. to do it ! ,,, not to see it,, or read about it, or some other sources of so called knowledge. well if you practice "meditation" great, awesome, i guess you will get all the experences,,and as for my logic, i know i have none,and i have no such knowledge, or any such thing. so dont take it heart,ignore the fool.
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Posted : Apr 11, 2012 21:35
Okay, no problem Experencing is using the sense organs and your mind. You experience with your sense organs and with your mind. The usage of the eyes is a way of experiencing the world.
If I see somebody disappear or walk over water and if I am sure, that there are no tricks involved, I will believe, that this is possible. If I only read it, it is no full direct experience and I won`t believe it. For this specific case there is no need for experiencing it with the own body. If I see a person doing it, it is possible. Simple logic.
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and gunter doood: there r 10 billion ways of getting to these states, so anyone is good,do your thing brew,just get into the light,and let it burn ur ego self, and party on!
and jaksynth tu kidhar gayab ho gaya tha oy? mere pass aa tere ko nritya karvatay hain,end on month aaja season start,ahah
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gunter:sorry i didnt read you last post,so about your simple logic:
"If I see a person doing it, it is possible. Simple logic."
once you see him do it, will you wonder how he did it? wont you question in your head how he did it? and then you will have to learn how he did it..then you will have to do it, to see if its possible,so you cannot just experience just by watching with your senses, but by becomming it..not so simple logic?
now lets say, you wake up from sleep, u open your eyes, get awareness, your senses waken, and your senses are sent outward to gather information around you,with your eyes,ears,etc etc,, or another way of looking at it, your senses are sent information, like light enters your eyes, your iris, and that is processed by ur brain,so in a way you r fed your reality,,, but in meditative states, your sense r turned inwards,,i dont know if you understand this, but there r more senses than science books explain,,anyway, the senses r turned inwards,but the capacity of the human mind is limited,even if used to higher potentials, but still, a lot is possible, a lot!
me think only through proper intense self introspection can one begin to understand the basic concepts,and then with longer periods one may begin to slowly become aware of the subtle or finer workings,for example, you can become aware of things like the movement of spinning of the earth,and then the whole galaxy's spiral movement, and the slower movements,if an amount of years r spent doing do,this may bring you in touch with larger energies at play,but there r much better wonderous things to explore,instead of observing these movements,but this is an example of things going on,but you should chk out the splendor and magic wooohoo, you can open any other dooors and do other research ,depends,in otherwords party on!
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Posted : Apr 13, 2012 18:31
I wrote, that I don`t believe it, when I read, that it is possible to walk over water or to disappear. I strongly think, that this is nonsense. But I wrote, that I would believe it, when I would see somebody doing it. I never wrote, that I want to experience it with my own body, because I don`t want to experience it with my own body. I would like to see it, which means, that I want to experience somebody doing it. I just don`t believe, that it is possible. When I see it, then I will believe it. That´s all, what I said.
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Posted : Apr 14, 2012 12:28
I guess, we have a different thinking about the sense of meditation, which is okay. For me medidation is a tool to work with the subconscious levels of the mind, to calm the mind, to raise concentration, stuff like this. I don`t want to achieve any extraordinary fantasto states.
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Posted : Apr 14, 2012 14:14
ahahahahaha,, tried used the simplest of languages,, he tried, he tried
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