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Tomos
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Posted : Sep 4, 2007 13:55
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I've just been told (at SAE!) that if a sound occupies the same frequency and space in the centre of a mix, and you make a copy of one of the sounds and pan it hard left, and the original hard right, this leaves the centre free for the other sound. But has the effect of both being central.
To me this just sounds like rubbish. Sound in the centre is the result of identical sound coming out of left and right speakers simultaneously, so by panning an identical sound hard left and hard right puts it right back in the middle exactly as it was. (Assuming mono sound of course)
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Trip-
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Posted : Sep 4, 2007 14:14
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I presume that you are not wrong.
I must say that after you pan both signals right and left, you might experience in an overall lower final result in dB (Mixer dependent property). Centred though.
Nevertheless though, what did SAE(let me call it that way) mean? I didn't quiet understand "leaves the centre free for the other sound"...
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UnderTow
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Posted : Sep 4, 2007 14:20
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On 2007-09-04 13:55, Tomos wrote:
Am I wrong?
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No.  I'm guessing they mean not exactly identical. Like adding a slight delay to one of the sides or for example recording two takes of the same guitar riff (which will never be exactly the same) and panning them.
If they really mean panning an identical sound hard left and right, whoever said that has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Probably some (important) detail got lost in the explanation or interpretation.
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Elad
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Posted : Sep 4, 2007 16:01
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first thing , didnt they told you to move it on the timeline? like moving one of them 2ms forword ? this makes FAT sounding for sure.
from the tsabi soundscool here is the milion dollar trick , if it works better then SAE please next time come to learn here , i will charge only 50% 
leave one in the middle as mono
take one to the left
one to the right
play with modulation fx like phaser (if its synth with no rettrigger just give it 3 recordings) on the panned channels.
now , your same sound needed -12DB to be herd properly , needs now -18 db (overall 3 channels) and still have same strength , even more
also , u can now with eq cuts to make each one of them thiner in diffrent freqs and it wont loose much at all
so , headroom + nerrow freq , wich is great to help the final mix , and not loosing anything in ears.
its very new trick in my studio , still exploring , but for now it seems to be working great.
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