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pan problem when side-chaining with waves c1-sc?
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orbit
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 08:19
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ok pretty much im trying to side-chain my kickdrum and bassline using waves C1-sc. now ive worked out that i need to route my bassline via a group channel and the same with the kickdrum via the send aux one panned left and one right, in this case my kickdrum is panned left. Now left is triggering right in a side-chain, i do my normal compression etc. but the problem is i cant bring the kickdrum and bassline back into the centre of my stereo space (no pan), where they are both playing on equal sides of my speakers. I understand i'll need to somehow centre my group channel, i just cant work out how? by the way im working in cubase.
thanks again for the help guys.
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orbit
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 09:11
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i'm also thinking too, would i have to somehow pan the kickdrum going through the send in the group channel somehow, i believe in logic this is done by clicking the 'Send display modes'. |
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br0d
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 10:00
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You don't actually need to pan the kickdrum track left, you just have to enable send routing, which is the little button just above the sends in SX. then you pan the kick send to the left. the bass, however, does need to be officially "routed" to the group channel (not using the sends.)
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 10:50
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Yip, pan the kickdrum SEND to the left using a pre-fader send: the kick signal itself stays panned in the centre. I always route the group channel containing the C1-sc to a new group, which i use to pan the Bass to the centre again. There probably is a much smarter way of doing it, but this one works for me  |
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orbit
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 11:56
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legends guys, many thankyou's! |
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orbit
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 14:22
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hello again,
went and tried this out, i routed my first initial group channel with the side-chain into another however, i still cannot centre my bass its doing the exact same thing as my first group channel if you were to pan back, am i missing something?
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 16:08
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Ehrm, yes. I route it to a MONO group track. Sorry that i didn't say that right away |
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 16:23
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yep, that's the trick - create a mono group and send your entire group channel with the side-chain to that mono group.
only way I found to fix the problem that I found, and it works like a charm. |
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orbit
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 17:28
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sorry another question, from my understanding theres only one type of group channel in cubase is that right? how toi get a mono group channel? im doing exactly what you guys are saying, but still the same problem when i pan the channel to bring back bass.
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 17:52
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Are you using SX? When you add a group channel it should prompt you for "stereo" or "mono" before adding it.
Though I *think* there might be a "do not ask me this again" option on that window, so if you clicked that then your group channels always default to whatever you selected that time.
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Surrender
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 18:12
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same problem for me when i tried your sidechaining trick...
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Sep 1, 2004 18:48
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I have posted an example of side-chaining here http://filebox.vt.edu/users/amarano/Side%20Chaning.cpr
I'm pretty sure it has the side-chained channel routed to a mono channel. (don't have SX on this computer so I can't verify, I posted the file a while ago).
Hope that helps!
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Sep 2, 2004 03:25
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hum interesting .. but .. if u put a group in mono .. u loss a bit ... its my opinion .. i see many persons using drum kits on mono audio instruments ... but , for ex .. somethimes i get .. this problems when im using stereo tracks ... they have a bit diference ,,but somethimes its because of the wave sample .. that have this defenitions .. so i edit them on wavelab .. and i fixed them how i liked them .,,,, but now .. if u are saying , that for ex ... VB1 bassline in cubase ... is not in stereo perfect mode .... its really strange ... might be a bug on your version ?? because actually i dont work on cubase ... but i allready worked .. and i never saw this problem
by the way since im on logic .. i never get problem in nothing eheh
so chek this out well .. because its really strange
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orbit
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Posted : Sep 2, 2004 05:10
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Is there anyway to find out how to get my first group channel to another mono group channel? there must be! By the way fuzzi, i cant get your file to load?
please all ideas are muchly appreciated. |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Sep 2, 2004 11:00
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I dunno... i just right-click in on the tracklist in the project window and choose 'add group track'. Like Fuzzikitten said it should promt you and ask if you want it to be a mono or a stereo group track. Then route your other group track to this track by going to the top of the group-channel in the mixer window and selecting the newly created group track as the destination of this channel by clicking in the small strip that says: BUS (or something like that). It's explained pretty clear in the manual actually.
By the way, are you using SX 2 ? |
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