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Posted : Mar 24, 2013 04:18:18
Hi again guys.
Now I have a question about pads and bass.
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Starting on 0:27 the bass is so clear sounding yet the volume of the pad isnt' turned down. Both of them sound great at the same time.
I tryed to eq them and pan, but nothing seems to help. Is there any proces whith whom I could achieve such clarity on my bas and/or pad !? Or am I doing wrong eq-ing ? I cut down low freq of pad, but it still not good as AP's thing.
Thanks in advance for helping a amatuer
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Posted : Mar 24, 2013 04:58
When I want a low-rich pad and clear bass at the same time I put the bass in mono, then put a stereo delay on the pad. Delay the L signal by 1ms, and the R signal by 10ms.
The result should have the bass only in the middle and the pads only on the sides, nothing overlapping. If you are sending the pad to a reverb after the delay then some sound will probably bleed back to the middle. I generally leave it though, makes for a bit more of a natural sounding separation.
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Posted : Mar 24, 2013 12:28
look that this pad is played on higher octaves than bass so there is no confilict on bass frequencies. if your bass is playing on first octave (1) then play yuour pad on 3rd octave (2 octaves highr than bass) and you will have nothing to do
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Posted : Mar 24, 2013 15:34
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On 2013-03-24 04:58, Equilizyme wrote:
When I want a low-rich pad and clear bass at the same time I put the bass in mono, then put a stereo delay on the pad. Delay the L signal by 1ms, and the R signal by 10ms.
The result should have the bass only in the middle and the pads only on the sides, nothing overlapping. If you are sending the pad to a reverb after the delay then some sound will probably bleed back to the middle. I generally leave it though, makes for a bit more of a natural sounding separation.
Good Luck!
Well,to be honest dude,something in mono just means it blasts the same way from both (or more,depends on your setup) speakers.
By delaying your pad this way,you make it sound more fat by psycho acoustic trick,not by solving any frequency clash.If you have same low frequencies,you will get beating anyway,cause by splitting your pad and making your bass mono,it still blasts from same speakers with same frequencies,as you must understand .
Probably you don't have much of a frequency clash,or one you just don't hear.
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Posted : Mar 24, 2013 15:41
For the main question,it looks like its just a processing that makes the pad sounds good,not a question of EQ.First of all,pad is highpassed way above the bass.It is not question of bass and pad combo,just a good sounding pad.
Long sustained stuff sound good if you feel it like a "pillow" , like a sea you dive into.If it is in your face,it will not have such effect.Puting it back with reverb,making it float with a chorus (or just make it bigger with unison settings if your synth has them),good stereo effect like the one described above and you will feel like you are falling down to a sea while the pad raps you around like a blanket.
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Posted : Mar 25, 2013 03:35
Yeah I know there isn't a frequency clash, tho I don't have the knowledge to make my intro sound like this big goal to sound like Ap lol.
My friend told me "just turn up the volume of bass" Thanks guys for your input and time, I'll keep trying to find a solution. Maybe to change the bass sound.
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Posted : Apr 11, 2013 04:55
you could use a M/S eq and take out the pads mono center with a LP filter or a shelf depends on source,play couldnt say a freqency range, the mono from the bass should or can now fill that gap without them conflicting and make up for the pads lost corrilation keeping it green +1 wen playing together???.....how ever if u now wanted to just have pad playing u could automate the LP center back into focus??? an idea worth a try if they are giving u grief..
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I would go with Equilizymes way, because the pad is pretty wide in the stereo field and the bass sits in the middle, except for that it's stereo delayed, with only the higher frequencies of the bass being delayed, so it's of no concern and does not hurt the low frequencies in the example you posted, add to that some gentle sidechain which you could do with intelligent eq automation as well btw., to duck the pad when the bass hits (with a very short release )and there you are... the mind will make the pad happen where it's sidechained if you do this subtly...
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Posted : Apr 11, 2013 12:20
could b ur choice of sounds n freq conflict, hard to say without hearing ur track, but often pads indeed dont sound right front and center, needs stereo spread work like panning or something often find is good on pads is widener like waves s1 kinna thing, can also be done manually
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