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overtone music techniques

moki
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Posted : Jun 25, 2011 13:49:40
this is a thread for overtone music techniques. i start with this one, that i just posted in the thread " music from your culture" but i think it deserves a special thread and hopefully a musical discussion.
please post examples that you like. thank you.






moki
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Posted : Jun 26, 2011 18:32




moki
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Posted : Jun 26, 2011 19:42




moki
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Posted : Jun 26, 2011 20:43
okey, i see this forum is very intensively alive. i need a break for a while to gain more power to discuss in this alive debate later.

Aluxe
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Posted : Jun 26, 2011 20:52
awesome stuff moki, thanks for sharing! That first video reminds me of tibetean chants, the other two are also great and really trippy and psychedelic
moki
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Posted : Jun 27, 2011 22:10
the first track is a mixture between bulgarian voices (they have this rare style with wide range ) and tuvan overtone singing. the overtone singing is believed to originate in mongolia and the altai region. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_singing
the tibetan chanting is a subgenre of this overtone singing...

the great migrations throughout history usually nourished the exchange of knowledge and culture very intensively. this track above is a good example of that. the old-bulgarians originally inhabited central asia. after that they migrated to the north of caucasus, much later they migrated to east and southeast europe. this was a time, as most of europe was forests and woods and no civilisations. at the end these very nomadic tribes united with slavs and thracians and this whole cultural mix has its result in the vast variety of balkan music wealth.

the tuvan singing in particular is practised in the south of syberia, which is the region where the first shamans at least in "eurasia" appeared.

the story of the first one is really very special. the guy who released this track had a dream about a family, where the father is from tuva, the mother is bulgarian, the daughter is russian and the son is jew. so he pictured the family as a musical one and found the ingredients of the salad to come together:
- overtone singers from tuva
- the magic bulgarian voices
- a moscow art trio
- and he himself who is a jew


and huun huur tu is one of the greatest world music bands ever released and every cd is very recommendable for new ideas and for spiritual journeys too. i love them.









moki
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Posted : Jun 27, 2011 22:35
i have to share this one too








mica
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Posted : Jun 27, 2011 23:11
crazy vocals!!!! very cool
vector_0
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Posted : Jul 15, 2011 02:09
i learned to sing kargyraa from this tutorial:








I learned to sing Sygyt directly from Alexei, the current percussionist in Huun Huur Tu. I showed him that I could sing khoomei and all he said to me was "tounge up" which is all I needed to hear. took me a week or two of practice after hearing his advice and now I can produce that crazy whistle like a real Tuvan. if you listen to enough tuvan music, you should be able to figure out how to sing basic khoomei. once you've got that, just lift the tip and sides of your tounge to the roof of your mouth and start feeling out where the overtones are. you'll get it if you really want to. I should probably just record my own tutorial ...           http://soundcloud.com/rob-vector
vector_0
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Posted : Jul 15, 2011 02:27
felt inspired





          http://soundcloud.com/rob-vector
Kaz
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Posted : Jul 22, 2011 13:02
I liked the links, but it annoys me that people use words they don't understand. So I wrote a long explanation of why you should have not named the thread like you did. But instead, I will be an educator here, I will quote Wikipedia about what overtones actually mean in music:

An overtone is a partial (a "partial wave" or "constituent frequency") that can be either a harmonic partial (a harmonic) other than the fundamental, or an inharmonic partial. A harmonic frequency is an integer multiple of the fundamental frequency. An inharmonic frequency is a non-integer multiple of a fundamental frequency.

... I hope you learned something today.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Oct 7, 2011 17:00
Went to see some guys from Mongolia wich came near to this, don't remember the name
Cool thread
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