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out of curiousity, How many of you guys make a good living with music alone?
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Medea
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Posted : Jun 19, 2008 22:28
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bukboy
Hyperboreans
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Posted : Jun 19, 2008 23:39
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Look. Ur right. I really have nothing against well spoken decent people. Race is a stereo-type and I always meet people on an individual basis and give them a chance. I definitely am not against a particular race. Its culture that is the problem.
Although if I met you here in SA Id probably think that u were either pretending to be african-american, trying to get me to buy u a drink or steal my car and kill me. + rape. Simply because 99% of the black people here are like that. Please dont judge me until u walk in my shoes.
No insult intended.
I think you dont appreciate that these people rape routinely as part of their culture, murder and theft is commonplace, and they sleep with their children & it isnt fuct up to them. I mean routinely! not sometimes in isolated places.
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mubali
Mubali
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Posted : Jun 19, 2008 23:56
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In history all peoples have committed the same acts. I'm sorry that your stereotypes would color your judgment before actually getting to know someone, but some things I can honestly understand. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I can understand that where you live is going through a rough time. And if I did meet you in SA or anywhere, I'd probably get you to buy me a drink anyway  Let's just say that there's certain neighborhoods here in the US that you wouldn't catch me out and about after dark, same as Mexico, same as parts of Serbia, etc..... For me the psy scene is where all the racial profiling and bs stereotypes were tossed out the window. I'm one of the few black people in the scene here in the US and coincidentally many other places I've been too, and it was a breath of fresh air to encounter people that looked that the person that I am, not how I look or what my people did...
 An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. |
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psyaudionamics
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 03:02
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and the scene will always accept you as you are mubali,
the psytrance scene is the best scene i've encounter...
to this day. probably cus we are spiritual people, positive people a lil weird and experimetalist minded,
but that makes us more vibrant and colorful people,
even when we disagree we act mature, although theres the occassional talkity talk, in the end no big deal we forget and live on haha
Best regards guys... |
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tokolosxi
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 05:18
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@bukboy
Your posts seems like they all come from what you've read in books or what your lecturers have taught you.Unfortunately the reality out there on the streets are often completely different to what we are taught at universities etc......just like the media,it all needs to be put through a huge filter first.If a book has been published by a certain publisher it doesn't mean it's the beginning and ending to all of human existence.China and Japan are constantly blaming each other for miseducating their youth with incorrect facts of the past/history...China makes Japan look like the evil ones and vice versa.So some kids in China and Japan have misconceptions of the history of their own countries.That happens everywhere in the world.By travelling and getting to know more cultures you see that their are many sides to the coin.Nobody is perfect,it's all about the bigger picture.....if you focus on isolated cases regarding culture or countries etc. ,everybody will look bad .What you are saying about the people in South Africa.......who created all the shit in the beginning,the white people moving in there with their so called "superior cultures" taking ,raping ,plundering etc.....like they have all over the world.Now they are sitting back with all the shit they've stolen in their castles,rich as fuck and they pretend to be so "superior" by creating a way of life that everybody is now forced to join but only on their terms etc. etc ,forgetting about the past,how they actually got all the stuff to make them look so "superior""civilized".They have created the problems that you are upset with at the moment in SA.If you look at a country like Botswana.....it doesn't have crime and it's one of the fastest growing economies in the world.You'll see that their are more trouble in countries in Africa where their are Western interest...I wonder why???Most of these first world countries look like they are so "superior" to others on the surface,but scratch the surface and you'll soon find a lot of shit.This so called modern civilised world that has now been created is looking like it might destroy everything ,if you look at all the threats we have at the moment like global warming etc. One last interesting fact...did you know it was the Chinese who invented "gun powder"......for fireworks....then the West took the idea,made weapons and "conquered" the world.......The wheels always turn and it's turning at a rapid speed at the moment.
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 08:34
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It was as a matter of fact Marco Polo who had the idea to use gunpowder to make war on other people, for Kublai Khan! He took the powder with him afterwards to Europe where... ummm, well you know the rest...
So, as usual the Italians are at fault!!!
Honestly, if we want to survive the coming times as species, the only chance is to stick together like glue, no matter what color the skin or what we believe in.
Ironically the most racial country I ever lived in, the good ol' US of A is really weird that way, they bicker constantly amongst each other until an earthquake, a hurricane, a tornado or 911 hits, then they stick together like glue and help each other out with the utmost of care. After a while they start bickering again...
Really strange... I never really got that, why they are doing that 
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bukboy
Hyperboreans
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 10:42
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Theres only one part left out in all this.
I know that this culture has to be educated and transformed, but as always the choice is to be a good samaritan and give up your resources to assimilate people, or instead just use em as slave labour till they die and no-one will miss em. (no one is special)
The South african black people should be greatful that they were taken out of the stoneage (forcefully), and now that they have education, medicine, technology, large government, modern miltary defence, and support systems for a large society etc, none of which they developed themselves, they complain that the white man is holding them back, because they are not giving them enough free stuff fast enough. What an ignorant stupid culture.
As far as spirituality is concerned, Hippies dont have any really useful culture to share or educate people about. The ideals of coming together as a species completely flies in the face of survival of the fittest, and is constantly exposed as crap whenever friction exists.
The cult of Spirituality and afterlife is just another culture. One that is less productive and which will be removed by necessity.
The fact that every culture was primitive at some point does not automatically mean that current primitive cultures have to be given living space or exemption from competition to nurture their particular uniqueness.
But lets not get into politics.
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JUGGERNAUT
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 10:54
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@bukboy
if a girl gets pregnant from being raped, should she thank the father for her baby? Im sorry you really sound like a bigot.
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bukboy
Hyperboreans
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 13:15
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If a girl gets raped then the baby will have rapists genes which will make more babies by raping other chix.
Evolution is not fair or gentle, but it works through ruthless efficiency.
I would looove to live in a civilised place like Japan, where all members are productive. Count your blessings. |
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pAn k - psyacoustics
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 13:32
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bukboy,when Greeks had culture you were probably hangin' from trees like baboons .. would it have been more proper for us to slaughter you???...isn't that what you're sayin'??...you were at a stoneage level at that time ,weren't you?
Yes now you are much more civilized than SA natives,BUT as far as i know a civilized man (IF truelly civilized) knows what RESPECT to other cultures is..no matter the differenses .
All these ideas you express sound to me like DARK AGES BULLSHIT ( you know...way before 1600 ac),therefore I don't feel like you should credit your self as "civilized".
Genosides were fancy centuries ago...sooo probably you 've got a space n' time jetlag or smthng like that.
Anyway,you shouldn't blame hostility against your race (SA whiteboyz)simply cause you're in somebody elses yard.I don't think you were invited there,and i don't think you wen't down there with the "best" intentions , so you should get ALL the hostility and anger from these folks..after all you truelly DESERVE IT..(sounds bad I know..) , BUT what if someone broke into your home,raped you and your family,kick you out of your house and said "fuck off it's mine now simply 'cause I'm superior", how would you feel then...?
a. ungry ?
b. well it's ok since he's superior and I'm a primitive to him?
Well I bet bukyboy you'd be pretty fucking pissed off & you'd really like to cut the son of a bitch and spill his fucking guts out while playin' soccer with his head..Wouldn't you??
But in that case now , you & your people (civilized MY ASS) are that son of a bitch...
Anyway since you're in someone elses home,& you took it by force,stop fucking whinning about savages that spread terror among your shitty imprialistic community.Besides that you never got there willing to help these people improve so they'd be able to offer something.Instead you stole,killed and left 'em with jack shit.BRAVO civilized baboons!nOw live with that.You deserve it.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS NOT YOURS AND IT WOULD BE THE MOST PROPER THING FOR THE TRUE PEOPLE OF S.A. TO CLAIM IT BACK & KICK YOU ASS BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM THE FIRST PLACE.
CIVILIZED WANKIN' MONKEYS MY ASS....!!!!
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pAn k - psyacoustics
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 13:46
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If someone is taught => he becomes better.
If someone get's fucked ...well then he should rightfully fuck you as well.
-violent use brings violent plans-
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bukboy
Hyperboreans
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 14:02
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The greeks havent done shit for the last 2000 years. so keep it down. Ur has beens.
But seriously Pank. I think ur critique missed the whole point I was making.
No-one has to educate them, they can just exploit them instead, coz theyre not beautiful unique snowflakes, And no-one really owns land, unless they can defend it with force successfully. So whats ur point? |
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pAn k - psyacoustics
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 14:33
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Well after 400 years of slavery under Turks it's quiet logic why Greeks haven't done anything after that.
BUT you didn't answer any of my questions.... wonder why???
...and that word "critique"... hmmm I wonder what's the origin of that word.... european..?
south african maybe..?
...oh....it comes from the word "êñéôéêç" & that's probably an english word right??
answers answers pretty boy
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pAn k - psyacoustics
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 14:34
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and besides that you were the one sayin' that these people have nothing to offer ..
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pAn k - psyacoustics
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 15:13
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Álso your name as "hyperboreans"....is it south african??
search your books snowflake....hmm....wich page was it...??
better change that to "hypercolonians"....but damn...there's still that damn greek "hyper" word...
and that term..."psychedelic"....well maybe we should not use these kinda terms ...they're "has been" terms...
still waiting for those answers though.... the silence is deafening
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