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out of curiousity, How many of you guys make a good living with music alone?
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Apr 18, 2008 04:52
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On 2008-04-17 14:54, Pythagoraz wrote:
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On 2008-03-21 17:10, shamantrixx wrote:
I'd rather live a short life doing the thing i love to do than live a long life doing what it takes to be able to eat.
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So... I don't get it...
Are you seriously saying that we should die of starvation, make music until then, and be content about it too? |
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Since when "I" means "we" or "you"?!?!
  "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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the daleks
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Posted : Apr 18, 2008 05:04
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On 2008-04-18 04:52, shamantrixx wrote:
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On 2008-03-21 17:10, shamantrixx wrote:
I'd rather live a short life doing the thing i love to do than live a long life doing what it takes to be able to eat.
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So... I don't get it...
Are you seriously saying that we should die of starvation, make music until then, and be content about it too? |
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Since when "I" means "we" or "you"?!?!
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semantics, isnt it... there is nothing confusing about what Pythagoraz said. it is common in english use I and we interchageably. native speakers know this...
personally, i'd rather live a long and full life
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Apr 18, 2008 13:31
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It's one thing to interchange "I" and "we" (which is OK in it self) and it's completely other thing to translate "I" as "you" and "rather" to "should" therefore translating the phrase "I'd rather" to "you should"...
Not that english is my native language but I'm quite sure about this one! Semantics is not an issue here... it's an example of mistranslation due to the prejudice that we should all think the same about particular questions and when that's not the case people get offended by it for no good reason.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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the daleks
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Posted : Apr 18, 2008 15:43
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seemed like a simple question... made sense to me anyway, and appears grammatically correct
are you saying that I/we should verb subject?
i dont get what your saying shamatrixx..
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Apr 18, 2008 20:26
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On 2008-04-18 15:43, the daleks wrote:
seemed like a simple question... made sense to me anyway, and appears grammatically correct
are you saying that I/we should verb subject?
i dont get what your saying shamatrixx..
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Pythagoraz quoted my statement that:
"I would rather live a short life..."
and than he asked me does it mean that:
"We should all live a short lifes..."
Clearly I was speaking for my self. I event pointed out that not all of us have the same viewpoint about that question so I really fail to understand the basis of his question. How did he translated "I would rather..." to "You should all..."?
I see no logic in that. Only an utter idiot would even try to persuade "all of you" to live the way I think you should live your life. It's nonsense and I don't answer questions like that because it's obvious that the person asking that kind of question is biased or unwilling to understand what I've said.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 19, 2008 00:30
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daleks - Shamantrix doesnt argue directly, whenever he doesnt like the debate he changes the topic so that noone can discount what he previously said. hes a religious priest type. who feeds off cheap tricks to fool naive individuals. you cant win an argument with him coz hes always right by quoting something irrelevant by some famous asshole who also happens to think for shamantrix.
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Apr 19, 2008 03:33
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Man... I wish you had at least half of your brain functioning as well as your evolutionary ability to struggle among the fittest 
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Apr 19, 2008 13:54
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hmm... if Shamantixx was speaking for himself it is of course fair enough etc.
I just thought it sounded like a statement about what is the right way to feel about the subject, and since i do not feel that way at all I challenged it.
no need to get personal towards eachother .
-no matter how intelligent you think you are.
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heretical
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Posted : Apr 19, 2008 16:48
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moderators please lock this thread, its filled with interesting ideas, concepts and things that actually matter...obviously in violation of the terms of use of this board like the mother of all philosophy thread. |
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Apr 19, 2008 22:17
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On 2008-04-19 13:54, Pythagoraz wrote:
hmm... if Shamantixx was speaking for himself it is of course fair enough etc.
I just thought it sounded like a statement about what is the right way to feel about the subject, and since i do not feel that way at all I challenged it.
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Everything should be challenged, as long as you are willing to accept valid arguments you need no justification for challenging any statement I make, in fact I support that kind of approach. It's healthy.
As you can see we can have different views and still maintain quite polite and respectful level of communication. I enjoy that kind of discussion far better than the kind that I have with bukboy right now. But I think that by ignoring the problem it stays "out there" and sooner or later someone will have to deal with it. So I tend to deal with it on a level that's required by the perception of the subject.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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psyaudionamics
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Posted : Apr 19, 2008 23:44
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Don't lock the thread, let it ring, I started the thread it got hijacked and i didnt say shit or got insulted, some people to took it there and i just put my two cents, Im glad it went there
I feal as Shamantrixx post above, matter fact i just started a 2nd politics thread, why cut it eeveryone been quite mature. |
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heretical
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Posted : Apr 21, 2008 19:09
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i was being sarcastic.. |
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pAn k - psyacoustics
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Hey fukboy-butboy...whatever you like to call your sorry ass , would you say the same shit,if YOUR daddy was a southafrican native (black man),instead of a white "superior" trash ??
Would it be ok to be fucked by others ,more powerfull than you??
I guess it's pretty easy for a white man in South Africa to claim supremacy...
The wheel turns ...so pray you'll never go under it 'cause karma is A bitch !!
Certain things distinct us from animals..our evolution in EVERY aspect..be it mental,ethical,technological & the realization that we can't go killing weaker people just because they are weaker.That's an animal thing.It ain't NO evolution !
Someone who is seriously asking WHY GENOCIDE IS BAD certainly is :
1. Completely uneducated
2. Primitive
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4. Son of a bitch.
And for your information, even a slave had the right to sue his master for mistreatement in ancient Greece.I can tell you that cause I'm Greek.That's F@CK*N' CIVILIZATION dude.. and NOT leaving people die out of thirst or starve so RICH WHITE BOYZ CAN AFFORD A MAC & SYNTHESIZERS & HAVE FUN MAKING MUSIC AND SAYING THAT KINDA CRAP IN FORUMS.. You don't have a clue about life or civilization.Evolution is probably something you are not familiar with!! ...you just got lucky...that's why you're such an arrogant prick. |
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bukboy
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Personally Im way beyond being a racist. When I look at an african movie I feel like im looking at a national geographic gorilla special. You probably dont know what I mean, but after u see the complex language, behavior, emotional span and culture of these savages, you'd see the similarities too.
Also Im not too impressed with the national pride of the local xenophobic WHITE Afrikaans locals who believe themselves great for their amazing achievements and hardships, so much so that they think they are superior to all Europeans save the dutch. Ignoring the elephant in the room - namely that their great country is now being ran and plundered by rapidly multiplying consuming baboons which don't produce any value. i.e. a primitive culture who has not evolved to be able to support a society as large as they have. great going to the proud rok spaaiders of triomf etc.
But thats not the issue. Inequality and unfairness is a part of existence. Every species' roots are in the basic functions of working for conversion of some resource into a food stuff, and also reproduction. Based on the efficiency and ingenuity of those processes, the leftover foodstuff is used for growth. If a culture runs into another culture and has to compete, then the efficient one wins in non military confrontations. simple.
SOoooo in a overpopulated world where everyone has to COMPETE for survival, in reality there are winners and losers, superiors and inferiors. The strong feed on the weak and make the pack strong. The culture with the better weapons and systems wins. Im sure thats true in greece as well.
Nothing personal. Im just disillusioned by idealist notions of equality, actually idealism in general. Id suggest u get over it yourself and move on with your development.
By the way. dont get so offended. I do have black and coloured friends. They all have university educations and were raised abroad. Its the culture which is despicable not the individual vessels who carry it.
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mubali
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Posted : Jun 19, 2008 22:14
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On 2008-06-19 17:12, bukboy wrote:
Personally Im way beyond being a racist. When I look at an african movie I feel like im looking at a national geographic gorilla special. You probably dont know what I mean, but after u see the complex language, behavior, emotional span and culture of these savages, you'd see the similarities too.
Also Im not too impressed with the national pride of the local xenophobic WHITE Afrikaans locals who believe themselves great for their amazing achievements and hardships, so much so that they think they are superior to all Europeans save the dutch. Ignoring the elephant in the room - namely that their great country is now being ran and plundered by rapidly multiplying consuming baboons which don't produce any value. i.e. a primitive culture who has not evolved to be able to support a society as large as they have. great going to the proud rok spaaiders of triomf etc.
But thats not the issue. Inequality and unfairness is a part of existence. Every species' roots are in the basic functions of working for conversion of some resource into a food stuff, and also reproduction. Based on the efficiency and ingenuity of those processes, the leftover foodstuff is used for growth. If a culture runs into another culture and has to compete, then the efficient one wins in non military confrontations. simple.
SOoooo in a overpopulated world where everyone has to COMPETE for survival, in reality there are winners and losers, superiors and inferiors. The strong feed on the weak and make the pack strong. The culture with the better weapons and systems wins. Im sure thats true in greece as well.
Nothing personal. Im just disillusioned by idealist notions of equality, actually idealism in general. Id suggest u get over it yourself and move on with your development.
By the way. dont get so offended. I do have black and coloured friends. They all have university educations and were raised abroad. Its the culture which is despicable not the individual vessels who carry it.
Peace... And destruction of all inferiors!
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Dude, I find that statement incredibly offensive. Some points I can almost understand but, honestly most indigenous cultures were just fine till someone came along to "teach them the better way".
Also, I don't have a university degree at all, does that make my opinion less valid?
Being of African decent, it really took me aback to hear some of your viewpoint. I'll respect it until the point where I find it personally offensive or insulting. This is that point.
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