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MishaCore
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 20:07
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i guess its a subjective matter man... for me it's harder to find something i really like in all genres. don't know maybe it's only me. if you say you're enjoing in now more than evey i'm happy for you man. i don't usually complain about this issue but in the spirit of this thread i wrote my apocalyptic thoughts. |
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Sixofour
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 21:28
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Lol, i cannot recall a goa track from before 1999 that was any good.
Everything after to me..is the SAME SONG by different artists. Yesterday, i was listening to 7 songs from hallucinogen, they were all the same song with a diffrent kick, lead sound, and melody. Everything else was identical. And its always this minimal sounding stuff...like at first its a clash of weird samples and vocals that someone stole...then its a breakdown to bass and beat only. Then its a poppy or squiggly sound with an off-key melody.....then more stolen samples play as the beat gets fast paced...then there is a long kick/snare drum roll which cuts off to either a pad, or a bass+kick motion. more random sounds repeat everything once. only this time add in a secondary lead which is either squiggly or poppy [depends on the firstsound...]...which cuts out to more stolen samples from star trek and 5th element [btw..i have a track with samples from star trek and 5th element  ]
I think originality is based alot of times on the purpose of the song. A song that is made to have dance floor use..has to follow fourtyleven guidelines for it to get play...
But, something that is made for listening [  not for dancing??!?! omg!!!] has no bounderies. Its a track made for any system or setup...and doesn't have a defined purpose..so there is no defined limit.
Personaly, i never make tracks for the dance floor. they are meant to listen to. They don't convey a message either...they effectivly have no 'purpose' other than for people who like them..to enjoy them.
Comercial music's only purpose is to make money. |
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 23:03
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I wonder if u dudes understand what money is and where it comes from and what it represents.
Hint it isnt an all bad all corrupting influence. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 23:06
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vegetal
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 23:15
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Speakafreaka
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vegetal
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 23:28
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 02:34
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On 2008-04-03 21:28, Sixofour wrote:
Lol, i cannot recall a goa track from before 1999 that was any good.
Everything after to me..is the SAME SONG by different artists.
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Everything before '99 is no good and everything after is the same song. 1999 must have been a good year for you. 
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Yesterday, i was listening to 7 songs from hallucinogen, they were all the same song with a diffrent kick, lead sound, and melody. Everything else was identical. And its always this minimal sounding stuff...like at first its a clash of weird samples and vocals that someone stole...then its a breakdown to bass and beat only. Then its a poppy or squiggly sound with an off-key melody.....then more stolen samples play as the beat gets fast paced...then there is a long kick/snare drum roll which cuts off to either a pad, or a bass+kick motion. more random sounds repeat everything once. only this time add in a secondary lead which is either squiggly or poppy [depends on the firstsound...]...which cuts out to more stolen samples from star trek and 5th element [btw..i have a track with samples from star trek and 5th element ]
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Are you taking the piss or is it just all way over your head? 
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Sixofour
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 02:34
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^^ What? I am refering to how everything being made now is undeinabley similar to everything else being made now.
Speaking of shi
tstorms....Psy/Goa trance is only for drug addicts.  |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 02:44
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On 2008-04-04 02:34, Sixofour wrote:
^^ What? I am refering to how everything being made now is undeinabley similar to everything else being made now.
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Reread what you wrote. Lol.
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Sixofour
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 04:09
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My brain must be dead right now..because i don't get it. O.o |
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the daleks
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 05:32
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FaceHead
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 07:37
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I know im not talking, but if overstimulation is the problem people need to put down the video games and go walk through the woods its very stimulating in fact more stimulating. so its not over stimulation its overdose of artificial disposable stimulation, and istant gratification. Any disposable instant pleasure pursuits will eventually lead to a tolerance. Tolerance to fun to a substance to an emotion to activity, and so on.
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bukboy
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 10:11
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Speakafreaka - ur responding coz everyone loves a villain.
Anyway
Money is a created out of thin air as a representation of assets turned into collateral for debt or just plain work to be performed(debt). this value is traded (using money) depending on utility to the people who trade it. i.e. they are willing to work an 8 hour day for x haircuts, and beers and cars etc.
So simply money facilitates the exchange of real value (i.e. the work people will do for other stuff they need/want).
So then Can anyone tell me Y it should be wrong for musicians to want to trade their music for something worthwhile (like services to be performed etc) instead of sweet nothing?
Commercialism is about investment (making your money work instead of you) - and it isnt evil. U guys should be trying to get a piece of the pie instead of complaining that it corrupts values. Money is ethically neutral.
Corrupted values in music are entirely the fault of the dumb masses who consider crap music to have value. |
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heretical
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 16:03
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