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Optimization of your DAW gain structure
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SafeandSound
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Posted : Mar 13, 2012 00:40:45
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APriest
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Posted : Mar 13, 2012 00:57
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Unfortunately he doesn't take in account 32 bits (and 64 bits), i don't agree completely with what he said, ITB you can mix at +1000 dB, you haven't the 0 dB limit, it smells like old standards.
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e-motion
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Posted : Mar 14, 2012 14:08
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@APriest
Most people use 24bits. 32 bits is pointless because 32 bits D/A converters don't exist. And even if they existed, it's pointless because 24bits already has more dynamic range than our ears can hear. Pyrex :: Traveling without moving
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 14, 2012 14:28
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On 2012-03-13 00:57, APriest wrote:
Unfortunately he doesn't take in account 32 bits (and 64 bits), i don't agree completely with what he said, ITB you can mix at +1000 dB, you haven't the 0 dB limit, it smells like old standards.
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Its not old standards, its standards of working with hardware.
Peace out.
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Mar 14, 2012 15:46
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On 2012-03-14 14:08, e-motion wrote:
@APriest
Most people use 24bits. 32 bits is pointless because 32 bits D/A converters don't exist. And even if they existed, it's pointless because 24bits already has more dynamic range than our ears can hear.
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every modern DAW work internally in 32/64bit (even if you set your soundcard drivers to work in 16/24bit).
So if signal never leaves the computer, everything is fine. another thing if youre send channels on separate soundcard/mixer channels etc. http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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Suloo
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Posted : Mar 14, 2012 18:34
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On 2012-03-14 14:08, e-motion wrote:
@APriest
Most people use 24bits. 32 bits is pointless because 32 bits D/A converters don't exist. And even if they existed, it's pointless because 24bits already has more dynamic range than our ears can hear.
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its not pointless many plugins benefit from floating point bit resolution^^
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e-motion
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Posted : Mar 14, 2012 20:24
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For internal processing, it's not pointless since you're processing so you need the best "resolution" to reduce artifacts from processing.
But, your track will have to leave digital domain some point in time (unless you don't want to hear it lol) and become analog, and by that time 32bits is pointless.
So for internal processing, yeah 32bits is good. For final mixdown, there are no advantages when compared to 24bits since there are no D/A converters for 32bits. You always end up having to reduce the sound to 0db.
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e-motion
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Posted : Mar 14, 2012 20:30
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On 2012-03-14 15:46, Alien Bug wrote:
every modern DAW work internally in 32/64bit (even if you set your soundcard drivers to work in 16/24bit).
So if signal never leaves the computer, everything is fine. another thing if youre send channels on separate soundcard/mixer channels etc.
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Well, your signal will have to leave the computer, or else you'll never listen to it 
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On 2012-03-14 18:34, Suloo wrote:
its not pointless many plugins benefit from floating point bit resolution^^
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For internal processing, I agree completly, to reduce the artifacts from processing. But the final product (the mixdown) will be sent to analog (for listening, mastering, etc.) so it will have to be converted and neither the D/A converters or the analog world supports 32bits (signal over 0db).
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b0Lt
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Posted : Mar 16, 2012 01:10
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very good read, thank you! |
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Mar 17, 2012 04:23
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