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Candy
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Posted : Mar 22, 2003 16:04
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Actually Zombi, now he's in Bolivia... LOL
  Majority is never right!
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Zombi
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Posted : Mar 22, 2003 17:41
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didnt i told u that ??
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Rik
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Posted : Mar 24, 2003 12:17
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why not let it happen in belgium again 
moahaha sounds fun!
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Surrender
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 17:31
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ok so maybe its due to high fever cause im sick with pneumonea  
but i had kinda the same dream again!
this time around the artists of the forum did play though and it was so much fun. i woke up, threw up, and had a smile on my face...
let's plan something for next summer?
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Lyri
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 17:49
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What a lovely dream.
But you know what they say, most dreams were meant to be dreams.
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Samsara
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 19:47
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I wonder how much does such a festival actually cost?
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 20:08
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well look at SDF 2003 lineup
then think that they had something like 7000 paying customers
7000 x 90€ = 630 000€
WOW
well i'd say people spent atleast 100€ average at the festival to drinks/food/etc
7000 x 100€ = 700 000€
630 000€ + 700 000€ = 1 330 000€
SHIT!!
so that's a rough estimate on how much money they made..
so what about the costs?
Hallucinogen live = something like 8000 pounds
8000 pounds = about 11 500€
now ofcourse some artists cost less than the others..
say that there were 10 "A class" artists
11 500€ x 10 = 115 000€
say that 10 "B class" artists all have 5000€ fee
5000€ x 10 = 50 000€
now all the dj sets/chill out sets..
let's say it's another 50 000€
so all in all the artist fees were
50 000€ + 50 000€ + 115 000€ = 215 000€
now..
how much could the soundsystem(s) rental cost?
I've got no idea what so ever..
let's say it's
50 000€ for both as together..
so now the expenses are 265 000€
what else?
rental of the place = ??
flight tickets to all the artists = ??
legal stuff = ??
workers = ??
rental could be something like 50 000€
flight tickets to around 30 artists = 15 000€
legal stuff = 1000€ ?
workers = 5000€
so now the expenses are
265 000€ + 50 000€ + 15 000€ + 1000€ + 5000€ = 336 000€
so "they" ended up winning 1 000 000€
can it be possible?
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 20:16
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so basicly 3700 visitors would have covered the costs..
i'm assuming they didn't pay any taxes since greece is a 3rd world country (based on the police behaviour and human rights insults)
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-Abatwa-
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 20:45
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I propose somewhere in iceland for the festival. a place with waterfalls in a forrest. i guess it has a lot of those. would be nice to see a festival full of isratrance members. really quality festival
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 20:52
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afaik no forests in iceland dude..
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-Abatwa-
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 20:57
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ahh ok then anywhere in scandanavia. i remember a finnish friend once said about forrest parties in finland.
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XrTC
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Posted : Nov 7, 2003 21:41
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On 2003-11-07 20:16, traveller wrote:
i'm assuming they didn't pay any taxes since greece is a 3rd world country (based on the police behaviour and human rights insults)
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that's not a good thing to write, paying taxes has nothing to do with being 3rd world country or not, also POLICE IS CRAP just like in most countries, but this is also not a judgement for a 3rd world country... i think you wanted to write smth else and you mistyped..  |
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Samsara
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Posted : Nov 8, 2003 13:57
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Traveller, artist would "love" to get the fees you are mentionning, you mean 5000 euros for a small artist???
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 8, 2003 14:33
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There is a lot of work that goes into a festival besides paying the artists. People work on it for months - they make much more than $5000 - maybe ten or twenty times as much. Any kind of construction costs a lot, too. The infrastructure also. And when you calculated that total for the food, water, etc - that's not a 100% profit, remember? Much less - though, without rent, probably still a decent profit margin - 50-60%?
Even after all that there's probably still a hefty sum left over. Remember, though - for every big successful festival how many lose money and never return? Throwing parties is always a risk, and a headache. And then, afterwards, if you make any money, everyone thinks you're an asshole. And now, in the US, you can even go to jail if anyone at your party was caught doing drugs. How fair is that?
anyway... an Isratrance party? Could be fun. But is it going to be full-on or progressive???  |
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 8, 2003 15:40
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well it was just a guess.. didn't say/think that it would be 100% right
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