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Oni - Capella

Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 21, 2012 16:53:48
Hey girls!
Another new track for you!
i'm feeling really creative lately, so i came up with all of this in 2 - 3 days.

Now looking forward to be polishing and arranging FX for 2 weeks...








I found out, that by removing about 12Db @about 70Hz of the kick and give those frequencies to the bass instead, one will achieve better quality and drive.

Correct me if this is reall wrong, but, the sound feels more balanced to me, and it didn't lose any drive really...
It just wont make that ugly THOMP noise in the speakers of our TV.
           http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
Disrupted


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Posted : Feb 21, 2012 17:48
MHmm im really not sure about this way of making your kick sounds. Maybe you should get some hi-fi speaker but its sounds like if it was muted.

How i usually mix my kick and bass is the opposite way, adding on the kick around 70hz bass is more around 150hz and more.

Beside that its great man nice work.           My music http://soundcloud.com/disrupted
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 21, 2012 22:24
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On 2012-02-21 17:48, Disrupted wrote:
MHmm im really not sure about this way of making your kick sounds. Maybe you should get some hi-fi speaker but its sounds like if it was muted.

How i usually mix my kick and bass is the opposite way, adding on the kick around 70hz bass is more around 150hz and more.

Beside that its great man nice work.




Uhm, your kick makes the same noise on the TV speakers, Note: None of the kicks drums make that noise when i play artists like Bizzare Contact, Perplex and GMS, So i'm pretty sure they are aware of this?

Also i check my sound on two different earplugs too, as well as i ask my friends for checks, they say things sound pretty damn smooth, and removing the frequencies around 17 doesnt ever change the fatness of my kickdrum, it only removes craploads of mud, as well as the distortion o_o

But i updated the track anyway~

i'd like to know other peoples opinions of this chase too actually. (:            http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Feb 21, 2012 23:08
Some artists 70-80 freqs from the kick. I don't think it's necessary so much. Do it carefully if you do it. i think you bass is good but your kick here is little bit weak.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 21, 2012 23:40
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On 2012-02-21 23:08, dj chichke wrote:
Some artists 70-80 freqs from the kick. I don't think it's necessary so much. Do it carefully if you do it. i think you bass is good but your kick here is little bit weak.



Well, then! it needs some engineering afterall!
Thank you for listening you too!

And, it might not be so Very necessary, but i'll try to fatten up the frequencies around, i just can't stand that distorting noise, it kills the whole track O:
And, its good to know that some artists do so, that means i'm not completely far out doing it... ?            http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 00:14
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On 2012-02-21 23:40, Oni Katsu wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-02-21 23:08, dj chichke wrote:
Some artists 70-80 freqs from the kick. I don't think it's necessary so much. Do it carefully if you do it. i think you bass is good but your kick here is little bit weak.



Well, then! it needs some engineering afterall!
Thank you for listening you too!

And, it might not be so Very necessary, but i'll try to fatten up the frequencies around, i just can't stand that distorting noise, it kills the whole track O:
And, its good to know that some artists do so, that means i'm not completely far out doing it... ?




No. I know many do it, from the major artists. The freqs that you realy want for your kick it's in the 50hz area. There is the real low power. When you open an eq on your kick search at this area for the frequency that you think makes you kick sounds fattest and boost it till you think it's enough.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 02:20
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On 2012-02-22 00:14, dj chichke wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-02-21 23:40, Oni Katsu wrote:
Quote:

On 2012-02-21 23:08, dj chichke wrote:
Some artists 70-80 freqs from the kick. I don't think it's necessary so much. Do it carefully if you do it. i think you bass is good but your kick here is little bit weak.



Well, then! it needs some engineering afterall!
Thank you for listening you too!

And, it might not be so Very necessary, but i'll try to fatten up the frequencies around, i just can't stand that distorting noise, it kills the whole track O:
And, its good to know that some artists do so, that means i'm not completely far out doing it... ?




No. I know many do it, from the major artists. The freqs that you realy want for your kick it's in the 50hz area. There is the real low power. When you open an eq on your kick search at this area for the frequency that you think makes you kick sounds fattest and boost it till you think it's enough.


I think i love you
I did so, and i think the kick sounds pretty ok by now, it pushes the track nicely together with the snare

Als, so basically i pitched my whole track down by 5octaves, and Surprisingly! the bas sounds way better on lower notes, and i have always struggled with bass that sounds crappy in lower octaves so i have been forced to make this sort of happy-go'lucky tunes, but this sounds a little better.

And the bass is rolling without sounding sloppy.

Ps: Best way for a more organic autotune than what i had to achieve by using Pitch correction? Logic's the DAW
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I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 02:29
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Ps: Best way for a more organic autotune than what i had to achieve by using Pitch correction? Logic's the DAW




Pitch correction of what?
I use the waves pitch shift when i need it. For small things i use the built in cubase pitch shift
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Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 02:42
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On 2012-02-22 02:29, dj chichke wrote:
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Ps: Best way for a more organic autotune than what i had to achieve by using Pitch correction? Logic's the DAW




Pitch correction of what?
I use the waves pitch shift when i need it. For small things i use the built in cubase pitch shift



i re-uploaded the whole shit 15minutes ago
If you can hear it... as i pitched the whole track by 4-5 octaves, i also had to fix the vocals

The vocals sound really metallic and
"14years old hands up in da air T-Payne hiphop" ish


I haven't really ever needed to autotune anything before...
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I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 10:12
This sounds really weird, man. Such feeling as kick, bass and perc sound thru thick cotton wool. Leads are very thin, weak and too simple (not interesting, preset-like). Mix balance seems to be ok, but overall sound is very strange and not pleasant. There is no drive.
          
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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 13:17
The kick and the bassline sounds more into place. It's still not very good but more into place. The leads like Makus said don't sound good. Too simple, to small and dry. Which vst do you use for the leads?           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 19:03
It sounds like you over-working everything, making it harder then it is or something. Get better source material for kick and bass. I have heard some stuff you've post here and often you've used like raw presets straight from a vsti. I think you should practis more on sound design, cuz you have come a longway already making tracks, but you are lacking soundwise, it doesn't sound as creative as you say.
You will make killer fullon oneday im sure!

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daark
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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 20:06
this mastering is no good           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 22, 2012 22:04
Chicke:
Great to hear that my bassline is more into-place. And i'm pushing away my Electro-House fetish for now, Gonna destroy all my Super-saws with Cutoff modulation and Distortion.

I think know why they sound preset like, and that is simply because they seem to fit more for the House Genre, don't they? Think about it. But this is not house. And i will have to just push that into my mind (:

And by the way, i use Sylenth1 and Vanguard for all my sounds.
Here i have only used Vanguard on two channelstrips...


Wizack:
What i need, would then be what you would call

Modulation tecinque!

I mean, i have all these wicked chopped up flowing parts, fine modulations and awesome sounds, but everything is limited by my own capability of making sounds.

And its really warming to know you have faith in me. Jag tackar och buckar (:


Updated!
Is 3:39 more spicy, in that way you guys want it?            http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
Oni Katsu
Li/fe

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Posted : Feb 23, 2012 07:30
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On 2012-02-22 20:06, daark wrote:
this mastering is no good




I need details!
Bring all you've got!
Just let me know what should be different? try to put your words on the keyboard, please?

it's not mastered at all
i still EQ all my leads and sounds.

Etc:
- Percussion needs to be sharper?
- more elements?
- Too low?
- Snare too loud?
- Too low?
- Missing some mid end?
- Too loud kick for the whole mix?
- Too low mid on the kick?
What frequency? What compression? and where.

Be constructive like Chicke is? I love critics!
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I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
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