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one doubt for reking at 96 khz at logic audio
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 21:32
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hy , my doubt is simple .. i use logic for some years .. and i never tryid to rek at 96 khz ..
i have one track to sell and they whant it at 96khz 24 bits ... to rek at 24 bit no prob .. but now .. how to rek it at 96khz .. i allready chek lots of menus and i dont find any option to rek with that rate ..
i also changed the rate on the control panel of the sound card .. and i tryied to bounce it like that but .. it bounce only 24 bit 44100 ... anyone can explain me how to do it pls ?
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 21:41
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are you on pc or mac?
and what version?.,
in logic 5 for pc you can find it in audio->sample rate
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 21:56
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pc ..
version 5 5 .. i go to audio .. sample rate ...
but if the track is allready done.. if i'll change the sample rate .. alll the wave on the aduio track ... stay more tiny .. and thenn . they are parts .. that stay wtouht sinth fx ...only thr percursion .. .. and i whant to rek it all just like she is ..
so how to do it ? becuase the audio -> sample rate i allready saw it 
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 22:22
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well anyone can answer me how to do it !??!?!?!!? ..
the track is finished .. and ive tryied to change the sample rate .. to 96 .. it just dont work well .. everything stay wrong ..
even system overload apears .. something that its fucking rare ro happen with me .
need this help urgent babbas
i apreciate it |
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 22:55
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Hi!
If you already have recorded to 44100 you will have to redo every single file for it to work...
so you better have all those presets and midi files ready... 
also check and see that the rate is not locked to a specific sample rate...
i might be wrong.... it might work, i guess someone else will tell you, but to my knowledge you cant just change the sample rate when the project already contains 44100 audio files ... you might be able to dither but that wont do much effect for quality...
just tell them that they have to take the tune as it is and deliver a 24bit 96khz for next tune...
lets hope someone will correct me if im wrong...
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 23:17
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hey man .. remaking all sinth .. like they wre precise .. impossible .. they never would be the same .. there is only one chance ..
but my question .. it will reduce the quaility .. making this way ..
the way is .. reking the track 24 44100 .. then import the track to wavelab .. then change the overall sample rate to 96000 ? .. it will be a problem on the quality making that ??? |
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Trip-
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Posted : Sep 28, 2004 23:58
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mate...
first of all, making 44100 to 96000 will not do anything better to the quality. maybe even worse.
A recording should be recorded at 96k if you want it to sound 96k. Of course when you change sample rate in Logic, it plays every wav twice faster - cause you told Logic that all your files are now 96k - but they aren't.
I don't know who asks for a 24/96 recording and nothing else.
it's obvious that either 24/44.1 or 24/96 will sound the same if you start converting every sample to 96khz. So they don't win anything.
besides in my point of view, those additional subsonic frequencies are for orchestral acoustic recordings from tons of mics and not synthesized oscilators. Maybe im just silly like that.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 00:10
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If it's going to be on a CD there is (as far as I know!) absolutely nothing to be gained from converting your tune to 96K to send it to them. Even if you recorded the whole thing at 96K in the first place I'd be dubious because it will only have to be converted back to 44.1K for the CD, and these extra sample-rate conversion processes will make your track sound worse. Higher sample-rates are intended for other formats like DVD-A and SACD.
Recording your final master at 24 or 32-bit WILL make a difference though. as with good mastering it is possible to preserve some of the extra detail these higher resolutions carry.
Phil - do you mean subsonic or supersonic frequencies? 
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 00:12
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check this plug out
http://www.voxengo.com/r8brain/
and read this thread to get some light
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/28979/forum/2/start/0
all i can say is that it wont make the quality better, but im not saying it will make it worse...
if i got things correct you will only gain quality if you record your instruments in 96khz and after that dither the mix to 44100khz for cd burning....
its a science... im not supposed to be in this thread cause i know practically nothing about it...
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Analog Xperience
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 00:46
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hey babbas .. thk for the post first of everything .. attention .. the 24 96 is not to be .. bether or not ... its only because the sound enginner that going to master the track whant in that format .. so .. when the track is master of course it will be out on 16 bit .. 44100 ... but if i gave im the track with they kind of bit rate .. and freq rate .. for the master is best for he can get and catch more kind of freq used on the music .. call them subsonic or wahtever ..
i know how i will do it .. rek it at 24 .. 441000 .. then i edit on wavelab and that is
but anyway thk for your comments its always good seeing that there is always somebody to give some help
thk guy's
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Trip-
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 07:32
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On 2004-09-29 00:10, Colin OOOD wrote:
Phil - do you mean subsonic or supersonic frequencies?
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it was late.... sleepy....
of course i mean the latter you silly wild goose
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 09:03
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From what i know so far even if you record your track in any format more than the standard 16bit/44.1Khz it won't make any audible difference to the listeners that will have your track on a cd even if it's going to be released on a 24bit/96Khz format. The reason is that all consumer cd players on the market they don't support higher formats. So they all downconvert the audio to 16bit/44.1Khz. |
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Hayez
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 09:29
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If you convert the sample rate from 44.1 to 96 you'll lose in quality. The sound engineer that asked you to do that doesn't make any sense. If your project is 44.1, just export it in 44.1 with 24 or 32 bit.
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ganjagil
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 09:46
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Mike A
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Posted : Sep 29, 2004 23:05
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Why does he need it at 96khz? Are you releasing it in DVD?
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