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Once And For All... WAV Vs MP3

Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 04:21
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On 2009-09-19 03:43, becktrank wrote:
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On 2009-09-19 01:02, Freeflow wrote:
I understand you guys, no they are not bought and im not really planning on using them for playing at parties i only wanted to get some ideas...



I got u me 2 also have a lot of music downloaded from blogs, but i would never use such musics to play at a party. I also think that music have to be free, but if it was free how all the artists that do so good musics to pleasure our ears, will continue on doing so? how they going to eat....that`s controverse.




No not with another world structure! Money isnt the only answer... the only possible way.. i mean common we live in a greedy dirty fucking world... money here, money there.. people kill for money!

I think it could work very well if we just stop building all these fancy big houses, all these cars all this shit that they build, where to do with it when we dont want it or need it any more... no body really knows... So the only thing is to destroy! and go back to the roots...
might sound drastic but its the only really good thing... erase, start fresh!
we still have the knowledge left, but maybe we can do something better with it?
also i can play guitar for a woman or man who cook´s food and she/he can give me some cause i gave her music...

anything is possible really.. we can all contribute in so many ways!!

thats just my utopia thoughts
Becktrank
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 06:50
i think like you man but then we have to go live into the wild, hehe, and grow dreadlocks.           ``We shall not cease from exploration - And the end of all our exploring - Will be to arrive where we started - And know the place for the first time.``

bahia
Suloo
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 07:13
@freeflow..do you want war or do you want people just burn their houses theve hard worked for, most of them ?dont get your point actualy..           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 08:36
Zork - yeah burn your home

Nah man! No war, no burning, just simple crushing, yeah if we all together crush it we will get good exercise and blew a lot of steam!

Nah really its gone too far and i dont think anyone wants to destroy this beautiful things that we build...
can you sense my irony...

you see if there is a option it would be easy for all just to say yeah lets abandon this untenable situation,

I take that you also live in the west, but man there are people living in tents, and caves in this day, yes its true.. some of free will, some cause they are in camps that the redcross put up.. but its another story..
Its not impossible to live closer to the nature, it would be great for us to do it...

Everything begin somewhere and in the end it might just be that simple that we have to go back...

but people need to be united cause no one can manage to live alone in the nature, but its strange that in this world society people can live alone, yeah their houses are heated and they can get food from the store.. but are they happy? do they feel fellowship? Look at the old people for example.. man its sad!! its real sad.. and you know what, we are all going to get old... i rather sit around a campfire, with a blanket and listen while they play music and kids play around, maybe if i get old i can tell them stories of when i was a youth... but noo.. i dont meet lots of old people now... maybe i should go to the houses where they put them...

do you understand me better now?


Peace and love... hehe, yeah right.. war and hate...
subconsciousmind
SCM

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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 15:13
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On 2009-09-19 00:13, LSDan wrote:
There clearly is a difference and It's proven. When an mp3 is made, it's not just the high frequencies that are taken but also the bass. It's a FACT that they don't sound as good.

320kbps I use in dj'ing as well as bought cd's and there is very little difference in quality, but however, it is still noticable to a dj/producer and probably not so much with general part goers.

with some lower quality mp3's, you hear the bass but don't feel it.

If you strive for TOTAL, upmost sound quality then don't use mp3 full stop....
...open to experimenting? then try it but I hope they are bought mp3's:)






I agree on most.
Here is the resolution from my test:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/workshops/various/mp3-showdown-hq/mp3-solution

it shows that some few exceptions, like elad, sattle battle, actually can hear the difference when using high end monitoring and the best sense ever (emotion). respect!

But most people don't hear the difference and in most situations the equipment wont reveil the difference. the worse the speakers etc. the less it matters if it is mp3 or not.

At parties speakers are not good enough to reveil the difference between a PROPERLY encoded 320kbps and a original CD anyways, so DJs don't need to care about 320kbps or wave. Except if they change the speed playback speed more than 3bpm. In that case, and with "pitchcorrection" enabled the differences may become more obvious. I didn't test that though.
          Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
bukboy
Hyperboreans

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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 16:34
Has anyone compared really high quality oggs?
The reason that mp3 cannot currently match wav at 320, is most likely the mo3 psychoacoustic model. But technology constantly moves forward, and theres no reason to think that at some point, the listeners with the most golden ears will be used for the development of that model, and from that day forward, humans wont be able to tell any difference.
So Im not convinced that we should give up on compression techniques.

Ogg shootout next please. I rip all my cd's at ogg 224, (quality 7) and thats good enough for me. Doesnt have as much airiness as some of my original cd's, but overall its a lot better than keeping wavs of all my cd's.
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