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Old Goa Kick: How can I build it?

Kai Q
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:07:27
Hi

I want to create a old Goa Kick like Man With No Name or Astral Projection used it.
But how can I make it?
Here is a exsample, what I mean: http://www.megachwiep.com/Beispiele/GoaSample.mp3
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:26
Psykick 4 will do this. It's a swept sine wave like most psy kicks, it's just a case of getting the frequencies and times right; tweaking until you get it is probably the best way. We made our version of it (http://www.discogs.com/release/93281) from a home-made analog synth.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Kai Q
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:35
Okay, but where I must put this file?
In my Ableton directory or were?
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Martian Arts

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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:35
the main attribute of the old goa kick, is the slower decay of the envelpe that controls the pitch of the sine wave. you actually get to hear the sweeping, instead of a click that almost coinsides with the boom/thump of today's trance kicks.
          
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PoM
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:38
i love these old kicks ,find them more punchy ,strange no one use them anymore
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:39
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On 2009-06-18 20:35, Kai Q wrote:
Okay, but where I must put this file?
In my Ableton directory or were?


In your VST Plugins folder.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
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Martian Arts

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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:41
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On 2009-06-18 20:38, PoM wrote:
i love these old kicks ,find them more punchy ,strange no one use them anymore


Both kinds can be punchy, its all in the drum synth programming and the way you are going to compress and EQ them.
I'll tell you what though, there were some tunes that had this really high pitched old goa kick, with a very evident sweep that sounded shite. It was not even a bass drum sound, just some sort of an electric pisstake, a few milliseconds at a time.
          
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PoM
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:52
these kicks sound like they sampled a tennis game .. my friends who were into techno sound hated trance cause of these kicks
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Martian Arts

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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 20:56
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On 2009-06-18 20:52, PoM wrote:
my friends who were into techno sound hated trance cause of these kicks


who could blame them?...them kicks ruined some perfectly good tunes back in the 90s.
          
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jun 18, 2009 22:56
I have still that vinyl Unconscious Collective pretty cool oldskool sound hehe.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
Zoopy
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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 10:17
mmm one man's ruined is another man's KILLARGHGHGHU
braininavat


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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 11:25
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On 2009-06-18 20:26, Colin OOOD wrote:
Psykick 4 will do this. It's a swept sine wave like most psy kicks, it's just a case of getting the frequencies and times right;



good advice, but a big problem for someone who takes this advice with VST in mind is envelope speed..
I suspect VST developers spare CPU cycles at control rates..Hence, I would suspect its simply not possible to sweep at the time needed with alot of VSTI.
Elad
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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 12:02
909 kick?           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
ohshit
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Posted : Jun 19, 2009 13:43
infected kick?

-soundforge
-tools/synth/fm/sine @60hz
-effects/pitchbend: range +/-2 +2@0% -2@100%
-effects/pitchbend: range +/-24 +24@0% -24@50%
-another pitchbend according to your taste
-eq
-cut
-???
-profit           http://soundcloud.com/alphadelphi
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