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T.I.D
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 20:19
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There are A LOT of live acts and djs established nowadays.
Not only those few ones that bubble keep to book every year .
lucky there are at least those supposed 20 new ones as u said DaPEACE but for sure most of the main artists are the just the same over and over every year. Not to mentionned that many of those dont even try to make something original when producing ..just keep repeating the same formula . why changing when get booked every year at ozora and some others festival.
Some Diversity and originallity would be nice sometimes to see in the line up and in the music too !!
Enough of formulas..
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T.I.D
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 20:21
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to : Beat Agency , i dont know you but i just fully agree with what u write . it is rude not answering to request even to say no to someone who wrote you and sended you some promo. |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 20:40
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You would be surprised how many organizers never bother to answer artists who contact them (the majority of this scene's organizers - sadly). I have 1st hand experience and I know many other artists who share the same experience. I wonder how these organizers communicate with those artists they book year after year? Via telepathy or the exact same way as we contact them - via emails and messengers? 
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goaren
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 23:28
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while you guys do have a point, one of ozora's main themes (and thank god for that!) or should i say atmosphere is that of old school goa trance, which easily explains a majority of the (re)booked artists, i wish that more of the older artists would have still played so that ozora can diversify the lineup (anyone mention elysium here?), but i do understand respect and actually pretty much like their choices for the last three years (dunno what was before that).
i cannot put into words what seeing juno reactor, total eclipse and mwnn last year did to me (not to mention BPC), and im sure that out of the excess of 15k people that attended the festival, a very big portion of it felt what i did, if you would have been there you would have perfectly understood what im trying to say, so yes ozora is trying to keep that kind of vibe in the festival and they do it damn good... regarding the newer acts - well im not that into fullon and dark so i cant really express an opinion about the new names that arent getting their shot at ozora, but ffs... is ozora the only festival in the world?! |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 23:35
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@ goaren
Yes sure its very nice to see those acts again. But they are basically the only ones being allowed to play. Not only at Ozora but in most Festivals that include old-school. That whats we point out here. That even when it come to old-school its the same names that get the bookings. Now I lived through the old days and there was 10 times more who contributed equally to what this scene was and became. Yet those of these artists who still perform are ignored.
You ask if Ozora is the only festival in thew world.,..no of course not. But 99% of all the European festivals book the same artists and Dj's year after year. That's what we complain about.
And no, Ozora would never book Elysium or even bother to reply back to me when I made them aware of Elysium's new releases. So sorry for not being optimistic or positive regarding Ozora and more Festivals who seem to have made a lifelong deal with the same elite artists. www.beatagency.dk |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 02:29
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On 2011-01-02 23:35, Beat Agency wrote:
@ goaren
Yes sure its very nice to see those acts again. But they are basically the only ones being allowed to play. Not only at Ozora but in most Festivals that include old-school. That whats we point out here. That even when it come to old-school its the same names that get the bookings. Now I lived through the old days and there was 10 times more who contributed equally to what this scene was and became. Yet those of these artists who still perform are ignored.
You ask if Ozora is the only festival in thew world.,..no of course not. But 99% of all the European festivals book the same artists and Dj's year after year. That's what we complain about.
And no, Ozora would never book Elysium or even bother to reply back to me when I made them aware of Elysium's new releases. So sorry for not being optimistic or positive regarding Ozora and more Festivals who seem to have made a lifelong deal with the same elite artists.
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im not a party promoter...
but considering your behavior... and since your an "agency"
im may start to organize international events...
but instead hire expensive great artists like shpoongle or Man with no name
im gona hire all your represented artists and charge you 100£ for artist to play in my festival(as it seems you even would pay for having gig´s)
what do you say?? hein?? think about publicity that my event would generate...
i even can make a website...
or make set up a great event in a special place like tanzania or congo... Hmmmm?? not bad hein???
perhaps a 30 day nonstop event... maybe 1000 artists for the whole event
how many artists do you represent???
100$x1000 would be a very nice start for a festival... i dont even care if public shows in...
and for the festival name, i would call it Self Service...
because it would be the festival were ordinary people would have a chance to become DJ once in their lives, and act for 10.000 people who would felt the same 
(i just hope samotraki or something doesnt copy my plan)
think about it |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 02:47
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I'm not a promoter in the psy-trance scene so dont get your hopes up. And no I would never pay anyone to play in a gig. I consider such "artists" to be very naive if they do. And sadly some do pay as an example their own transportation to be allowed to play.
The rest of your post is nonsense to me. But peace to you
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 02:53
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 02:54
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If I am not mistaken we have just seen one of the Jokers from the notorious Samothraki crew trying to be funny
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bubble
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 03:16
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Dear Beat Agency,
I did listen to your music although i don't remember receiving an email from you but most likely thats because we get about 100 each day.
I am not going to get into a boring conversation about whats good and what isn't cause I will leave that for the kids on the playground .
With your comments you painted a pretty grim picture of yourself not to mention lying publicly .
We don't send out newsletters or spams that is for sure and accusing us with that is just not wright but hey, its your choice but because of this i will
not respond to any of your messages in the future .
Yes,you may think you have made a name for yourself by trying to make us look bad but believe me it was the wrong direction to take when trying to bring attention to your agency .
ps: there are still lot of other festival topics you can write in where you weren't invited !
Peace and love
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 03:22
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Wow so after 2 years of sending you emails i finally get your attention dear bubble I should have done this a long time ago
Oh and I did indeed receive quite a lot of promotion emails from your organizations so stop saying I am lying. That's a poor defense tactics
I have no intention to receive bookings from you as I have indeed stopped in this scene as an artist.
All I wanted was to be treated fair with a small No thanks. Instead i received no word and a lot of spam which was the thing that made me angry (a no thanks would never make me angry).
Have a great Festival. I hope some day you will listen to critics and realize you should probably start to look for a fresh new pool of artists. After all they are the future. Not the same artists year after year. But hey it's your Festival of course
And remember you only have a festival because a lot of artists make amazing music. Treat them with respect and take the time to write them back when they take the time to contact you (It does not really take that long) and you get 10 fold respect back.
And for the last time. Beat Agency is not a agency in this scene so don't worry. I wont ask you for bookings;)
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importedthoughts
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 10:06
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Come on guys. Cant we all just get along. I agree with change, but there must be a reason OZORA is regarded as one of the best festivals in the world.
On a lighter note, i would kill to see FLOWJOB live. Its only 1 extra act. Not sure if you are adding any new acts, but this is definately one to add. Most awesome daytime prog ever. Please consider this if you are adding more acts as i know you can probably make it happen and that will please many people.
Peace, love and that good happiness stuff!!
P.S. Please dont mention Samothraki - bunch of idiots that couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery. Makes me grateful for proper organisers like OZORA. Oh well, Mafia island was absolutely stunning - cant wait to go back there.
But first - OZORAAAA!!!!!
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sprong
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 13:20
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Dear Mr. Bubble, do you have any comments regarding my previous post?
Greetings from Sweden |
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Adigroovy
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 15:35
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anyway what i don't understand much, many of so called big names from the past are not producing new music, example Hallucinogen or most of the line up here, so when you experienced them 10 years ago and now is the same set with 2/3 tracks in between less known, so then my question where is the magic?? I mean all this repetition and none creativity is heading that the scene is diying as already mentioned. Gamma Goblins is nice but after 20 times of repeating it, it's just getting bored.
while for example Para Halu never played at Ozora, while being Hungarian and making some psychedelic music since years.
honestly i have been to last 4 editions of Ozora, and i will skip it in 2011, although there is best atmosphere one can find today at a trancefestival, but imo magic is leaving, and one part of that is the orga that do not take risks with opening a bit towards other styles and directions.
finally we talk about art, and art is about taking risks and innovationg.
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bubble
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Posted : Jan 3, 2011 15:57
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On 2011-01-03 15:35, Adigroovy wrote:
anyway what i don't understand much, many of so called big names from the past are not producing new music, example Hallucinogen or most of the line up here, so when you experienced them 10 years ago and now is the same set with 2/3 tracks in between less known, so then my question where is the magic?? I mean all this repetition and none creativity is heading that the scene is diying as already mentioned. Gamma Goblins is nice but after 20 times of repeating it, it's just getting bored.
while for example Para Halu never played at Ozora, while being Hungarian and making some psychedelic music since years.
honestly i have been to last 4 editions of Ozora, and i will skip it in 2011, although there is best atmosphere one can find today at a trancefestival, but imo magic is leaving, and one part of that is the orga that do not take risks with opening a bit towards other styles and directions.
finally we talk about art, and art is about taking risks and innovationg.
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Dear Adigroovy,
Thank you for your support over the years .I know you were (hopefully will return) a big fan of the festival but one thing you must understand which is that Ozora is a festival that does cater to those who would like nothing else but psy trance .They don't want to listen to house,techno,minimal etc. I have nothing wrong with these styles but I do appreciate a place that concentrates on psy and ambient and nothing else .Other festivals lost a lot of their hardcore fans when introduced other musical genres.I can relate to people who say lets stay at one genre.
I have come across some great music from other genres that have nothing to do with psy but thats me.
Hope you understand and hope to see you back one day .
Once again thank you for your support over the years
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