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loki
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Posted : May 1, 2011 06:35:02
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Serious question, 'cuz I have a lot of trouble with it. How do you guys stay away from making music that's too cluttered and dense to be enjoyable?
Every time I listen to my favourite tunes, I'm always struck by how FEW sounds they have. When I try to make a tune, sometimes i get carried away adding channels and adding channels and adding sends and automation, to the point where it feels to cluttered. How would I ever put 60 channels of instruments and fx, with 4,5,6, or even more channels of delay and reverb on top of that - into a live set!?!?!
I'm trying to organize my library into something of an organized toolkit for live performance, and it's difficult because of this.
So... how do you all do it? Do you go through your tune a couple times while making it, and delete all the sounds that are "just ok" ? just lookin' for any old advice, i've abandon 3 tracks in 2 weeks now because they got too dense to quickly and i don't want to deal with them.
  Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 1, 2011 09:49
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Seriously it has to do with experience and knowledge. There is no recipe. To keep things minimal is a difficult art to master. Just keep practicing and you'll get better at it 
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wizanda
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Posted : May 1, 2011 10:52
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More writing, more learning to remove unnecessary frequencies and bullet point everything (define magic frequency range). Then listen to something that has allot going on, yet isn't cluttered, its all shelved in some way. 
Also think about painting and its safer to paint in thin layers, until you reach the desired depth. 
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jekvan
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Posted : May 1, 2011 16:13
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I think this is just basic impatience...When I was younger much,I used to write stories,and at some point,I just wanted to throw everything I got on the page..
I think one of the beauties of psychadelic music are the "empty" spaces,in which the listener can fill them with his own imagination.Psichoacoustics 101,lot of information in little space make you hear less frequencies,and makes you tired much faster from hearing that music.
"Empty" spaces make you fill them with music and information invented in your own brain.
You have whole 8+ minutes to make your message across,lay back and don't squeeze it all in one bar.
From all the things I lost,that sandwitch cost me most :)
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newday
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Posted : May 1, 2011 16:14
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yeah no recipe for music making but a find a good method to leave some tracks for a while and then, say after a week, you will notice if all the sounds and things like automation etc in the track are really necessery...
depends also if you want it kind of "minimal" or "full on" |
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makus
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Posted : May 1, 2011 16:32
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Logic helps (not software). Make music logical. Define what's important in the track and make it louder. Mute everything else
I have this problem too. What helps is not listening to track a lot, opening the project in 3 months and mute everything unnecessary. I have track where 50% of the sounds are muted.
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ben
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Posted : May 4, 2011 00:41
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I can relate to what you said... I think the issue here is trying to add too many things to make up for good sounds... If each sound is solid on its own, there is no need for 30 layers... not that there is anything wrong with that, but there is also a way to make very powerful tracks with few elements.
I would suggest trying to keep things very simple for a while when you make music. Try learning more about synthesis also, so you can make better sounds, improving the production is also key, as it will help having fewer elements stand on their own.
There is more but i gotta run. Good luck |
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Upavas
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Posted : May 4, 2011 01:35
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