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acidkills
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 08:10
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trollup
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 08:29
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you must have a link to an audio example of a mix which dosn't need mastering, or are you just making this up? |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 08:41
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On 2008-07-02 08:09, -=ZorK=- wrote:
of a track that is perfect mixed and where is no need to master?no but i had mastering at school and thats what every professional mastering engineer says..
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Unfortunately these days mastering also means making things loud and crushed so a perfect mix, which by definition isn't crushed, won't be the same as the mastered track. 
Maybe people will come to their senses and we will see a decline in the general loudness of released music...
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trollup
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 08:51
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What would be a good rms level for a track? |
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acidkills
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 08:58
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On 2008-07-02 08:51, trollup wrote:
What would be a good rms level for a track?
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Depends on a genre.. And no Im not making this up.. Its said by the pro mastering authorities and I agree with it.. Its theory, but in practice its hard to find.. Engineer's work is to fix the faults to make a record perfect and if there are no faults than theres no need for fixing.. But people make mistakes and mistakes happen even in the post -production..
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trollup
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 09:10
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who are the pro mastering authorities? and don't you mean pre-mastering? |
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acidkills
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trollup
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 09:51
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doesn't really answer the question |
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trollup
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 09:57
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"My working method is in many ways different
from that of most other mastering engineers."
a quote from the link
so basically you are just making this all up |
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acidkills
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 10:03
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Im just saying that this guy is doing it for more than 20 years and knows about it more than u and me both and if he said it than that is how it is.. Im not a mastering engineer so I dont receive mixes so how can we tell which track is perfectly mixed when we hear only mastered tracks.. Track that was released and mastering engineer didnt do nothing on it is perfectly mixed.. So u should ask Friedemann or any other engineer or label, maybe they have some perfectly mixed tracks for referance..
And his working methods are stunning, almost perfect  http://www.myspace.com/djacidkills
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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 10:10
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Unfortunately these days mastering also means making things loud and crushed so a perfect mix, which by definition isn't crushed, won't be the same as the mastered track.
Maybe people will come to their senses and we will see a decline in the general loudness of released music...
UnderTow
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Yeah, it takes so much dynamics away when you compress the hell out of a mix...
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trollup
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 10:17
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On 2008-07-02 10:03, acidkills wrote:
Im just saying that this guy is doing it for more than 20 years and knows about it more than u and me both and if he said it than that is how it is.. Im not a mastering engineer so I dont receive mixes so how can we tell which track is perfectly mixed when we hear only mastered tracks.. Track that was released and mastering engineer didnt do nothing on it is perfectly mixed.. So u should ask Friedemann or any other engineer or label, maybe they have some perfectly mixed tracks for referance..
And his working methods are stunning, almost perfect
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so do use this guy for your own tracks? |
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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 3, 2008 10:17
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ansolas
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