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normality, rules, borders and authenticity...
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 13:35
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Maybe if your making music that isn't trance then maybe you should find a different party to play it at  |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 13:36
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it depends on the state of mind you are on as well as on the setting.With an englightened sight you see and hear clearly if not crystalclearly the elements of music beyond creating parapsychological microcosmical orgasm for your alpha waves that otherwise are only stimulating the deep subconscious without you even realize it.But 64th notes are pobably too rapid to catch them enjoying.Well i dunno omo.sooon time for experymentzZ yeah
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drucdrac
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 13:41
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Maybe if your making music that isn't trance then maybe you should find a different party to play it at
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You see you are a real orthodox!
You already want to excommunicate me... 
Do we really need to make such boudaries?
I never mind if it's authentic trance or not, if it's dark or too speed or too slow...
I just want music who belongs with me at the moment i am listening to it. 
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vegetal
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 13:42
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 13:46
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On 2009-03-06 13:32, drucdrac wrote:
Maybe the word "trance" is inappropriate for our music, since there is many breaks an not so repetitive phrases...
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"our music" meaning? I like the word trance, it means that when i listen to this music i get so lost in it, i go into trance. what else are we gonna call it if not trance?
or are you talking about "dark psy"?
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 15:08
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On 2009-03-06 13:41, drucdrac wrote:
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Maybe if your making music that isn't trance then maybe you should find a different party to play it at
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You see you are a real orthodox!
You already want to excommunicate me...
Do we really need to make such boudaries?
I never mind if it's authentic trance or not, if it's dark or too speed or too slow...
I just want music who belongs with me at the moment i am listening to it.
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You are taking a tongue in cheek comment too literally
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 15:10
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On 2009-03-06 13:42, vegetal wrote:
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On 2009-03-06 13:35, ~d2~ wrote:
Maybe if your making music that isn't trance then maybe you should find a different party to play it at
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What if your making trance but the rest doesnt play trance, should i kick them out based on that logic ?
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see above mr vegetable |
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 15:21
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Anyone here find it easy to reach that trance state at 180bpm?
P.S. any idiot can neck a load of drugs and reach "a state"
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:26
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that was very unnice and the sense is really bull.
Thats simply not ture - its only true for people that never tried it or failed by trying or maybe who shuldnt try but tried some and now think they know it all and its soo bad.
Not any HUMAN BEING can reach a trance state where you are enlightened or where you can crystalclearly check things which you otherwise wuldnt.
I only guess you wouldnt stand a bar at 180 bpm either you are on or without such a state.
No matter how old you are,how big your console is and how expensieve your brands of speakers are.Thats nothing when you are limited you simply dont know what trance is or are in this unexpirienced.A very very nice gesture with that studio offer btw .
Id say the less people can produce that way they cannot focus so its actually a much more craft and art imho.
Its not eazier its tougher and much more complex to fullfil a tune while being really on a high perspective.
And to check music aswell.There are music which can bring you down in a nutshell even though its 80 bpm  )
When you have it than you even dont need anymore you have expirienced it You then know there is no limit.
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 16:57
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TO be honest I find it hard to understand what you are trying to say.
But basically I am not going to call D&B trance am I??
With out getting to anal about all this, there are certain things that make it Trance, like there are certain things that make something D&B or rock or metal etc etc.
Lets keep our feet on the ground here. Not everything can be trance and trance can't be everything. There are limitations. This doesn't mean we have to paint this so black & white. There is much freedom with in the genre. But 180bpm isn't really trance now is it.
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shellbound
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 17:17
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when it comes to bpms, i personally agree with the arguments expressed here for slower music and that's the kind of trance i generally prefer.
and i grew up listening to blast-beat laden death and black metal and super fast glitched-out idm and break core. so i definitely don't have a problem with speed per se. it's just when it comes to trance music, there are specific things that attract me personally to it. and if i feel like hearing something really fast and crazy, i'd rather listen to Venetian Snares because it's a lot more interesting for me.
but i would never say it's not music or it's not trance or it doesn't have a right to exist or anything like that. as far as i can tell, people are still free to make what the like. to listen to what they want. and i don't think there's BPM police raiding labels or shutting down parties once a tune above 145 is detected.
so... carry on.
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 17:34
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I am fine with trance up to 155bpm but anymore than that and it just fails to be trance for me. Doesn't mean I don't like it. Just means that it can be disappointing if you were wanting to trance out.
I also love techno and acid techno gigs. But for different reasons.
If i travel 500 miles for a party which is meant to be and is billed as a psy-trance party and they don't play music which has a trance like effect then you can't help but feel let down.
If I went to a gig which was billed as techno and they played house or trance or electro then I might also be very disappointed. Again doesn't make the music bad. Just you paid for something and you didn't get it. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 20:27
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I don't know what the initial post means with "authenticity"
But if the it means authenticity as in "an authentic" person, meaning, a person who is honestly being himself and not pretending to be somebody else, then.. hell yea.. that is extremely important ANYWHERE.. authentic music is the only one that is able to touch me for real. thats a logical consequence of its nature.
Who wants fakes? Thats the opposite of authentic.
"Normality" well... if something is "normal" it is "normed" and it is very likely not individual and therefore not authentic.
As for the rest. I don't care. borders, rules don't exist for me in music.
Most of my music for you to download at:
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 20:30
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There are lots of different ways to be different than using silly BPMs. There's all the stuff that happens in the music, for starters.
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drucdrac
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 21:09
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(...)if the it means authenticity as in "an authentic" person, meaning, a person who is honestly being himself and not pretending to be somebody else, then.. hell yea.. that is extremely important ANYWHERE.. authentic music is the only one that is able to touch me for real. thats a logical consequence of its nature.
Who wants fakes? Thats the opposite of authentic.
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I am totally agree with you.
The problem is to say what is authentic and what isn't...
I think it's simply impossible and pointless
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