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Nord Lead 2x help

Lazarus.92
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Posted : Jan 29, 2014 18:49:41
Tell me please who have nord lead 2 x or know how it fits conection with pc without soundcard , i have amplifier and pc without extern soundcard , i want to buy it but i dont know how to conect with my pc and does it works in ableton and cubase , does nord have own plugin interface for making sounds , ty very much , price for nord lead is 650 euros , is that too much ?
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 29, 2014 19:04
The Nord Lead is a hardware synthesiser. It can be controlled over MIDI, so you will need a MIDI interface and some MIDI cables. Soundcards usually include MIDI interfaces but you can also buy them separately. The Nord Lead does not come with a plugin interface; you program sounds by moving knobs on the front panel.

Before you buy something like this, you need to know enough to decide whether it's what you actually need. From the questions you ask, I'd say you probably need to spend a bit more time learning the basics before you spend so much money. Perhaps you could spend some time with a friend who has one of these in their studio, to see how it works and what its limitations are.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Lazarus.92
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Posted : Jan 29, 2014 19:20
Yes , i decide to buy soundcard Steinberg UR 22 , then i will buy nord lead 2x ( not rack ) to practice everything i i think i will learn all thing and do with nord very fast and better without , with mouse :S , i watch lots tutorials , and i need nord or midi controler to move on , next item is acess virus rack , can i have nord and virus active with this soundcard and use my amplifier ?
vipal
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Posted : Jan 29, 2014 20:04
that soundcard has 2 ins and 2 outs, the nord needs at least 2 ins, so does the virus. so if you want to use both at the same time you need more ins.           http://soundcloud.com/vipal
Lazarus.92
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Posted : Jan 29, 2014 20:33
ok , thx mate
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jan 29, 2014 20:51
Or a mixer.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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basshead


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Posted : Jan 30, 2014 19:17
You need a soundcard to get audio, and then something like this:

M-Audio USB Uno 1X1 MIDI Interface, or MIDISPORT 2x2.

That works for my nord lead.

And Midi OX is great for saving presets but I guess you don't need that with 2x anyways.

Peace





Stephdog


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Posted : Jan 31, 2014 06:35
Nord lead does not have his own plugin interface but it has two audio outputs
(L mono/R)..
so you need a soundcard to transfer sound to your pc or daw.
Midi cables doesn't not transfer audio.
If you have onboard soundcard, propably has one "line in" input.
With an "1/8 Male Stereo Phone to 1/4 Male Phone" adapter you can connect your nord with pc.
( http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP153-Cable-Inch-Dual/dp/B000068O3C ).
(dont use "mic in" input because you will have distortion issues)
Analog Archangel

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Posted : Jan 31, 2014 21:25
Hey bro, what I have setup in my studio is a Nord Lead 2X with line in on an analog mixer, with MIDI cables going into a MIDI interface, you don't "have" to have a soundcard, however, it is preferred, if you're using Cubase like myself you might want to check out Steinberg's "Midex 8" it is the BEST MIDI interface for Cubase because it has superb MIDI timing right down to the sub-millisecond, with NO latency, check it out here... http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/steinbergmidex8.asp Steinberg no longer makes these but you can still get them on eBay.

For a soundcard though, I'm currently using M-Audio's audiophile 2496, it's really great and has 2 MIDI inputs directly into it
http://www.m-audio.ca/products/en_us/Audiophile2496.html

~Peace N Love
frisbeehead
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Posted : Feb 1, 2014 01:32
I think you should spend more time learning the basics and even getting your basic studio setup together before investing money on a hardware synthesizer.

Good monitors and audio interface are mandatory.

The only machine I know of that meets everything you ask is the Virus ti. That is audio interface, midi connections, keyboard controller and a plug-in to edit and save patches within the host software. Still, I don't think this would be a good idea if you're just starting out. To much money.

Get to know subtractive synthesis first, software is more then decent these days. With a nice controler you can learn all about it and then you'll know better what you need.

^ midi interfaces... these days timing is hardly an issue with modern computers and interfaces. no need to get some old product that's not supported anymore, seriously. even a midi controller with usb connection can deliver. so just pick something that suits your needs.
-=Mandari=-
Mandari

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Posted : Feb 2, 2014 15:15
may you guys facepalm now, BUT, i did it the same way and learned way more stuff WAY faster than on pc.

i swear upon the fusion between man and machine. and i mean machine....something you can touch and feel. never mind, if you feel that beast screaming for you, just get it. you can sell it later if you feel to do so. dont mind the bucks, look at it kinda price you pay for education and learning process. but imo i dont think you will sell it ^^

i had the issue having that money safe that day but that was not safe for the future and i couldnt be sure if the money will be there when i know i need this or that.

maybe i need to mention that except my first machine, a electribe sx, i did not sell anything and dont think i will.... i still regret i sold that thingy, but that time i wasnt able to integrate it after i was through its possibilities and found myself limited. i couldnt afford more hardware, thus had to sell it....

long story short term. you should go for your heart. if it says you will benefit of buying a nord, nobody can tell you if you will or not its a good machine, which is reliable, so i dont see any reason for selling it after... and i think we all started with a laptop/pc and a hifi or pc speaker system, anything alike.... with a deep feeling for needing more. its a matter of choice where you start.... buying decent speakers, interface or anything else is completely up to you. if you know your situation actually lacks exactly that machine, dont let others tell you it doesnt.

my provoking 2 cents, cheers
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Feb 2, 2014 22:36
Quote:

On 2014-02-02 15:15, -=Mandari=- wrote:
if you know your situation actually lacks exactly that machine, dont let others tell you it doesnt.






don't quote me as being in the way of a man and his dreams dude... take it easy XD

What I was trying to do here, more then anything, was a survey to see if he's not just getting it based on everyone saying that you must have either Virus or Nord to make psytrance kind of thing...

Actually do agree with you on the man/machine connection, the physical interface and all of that. Also learned a lot with first physical synthesizer I got. So there's that, of course. But I was pretty sure what I was getting back then, been doing music just with software for some time before. So there's also that. Or accept the simple truth that hardware owners are running an internet conspiracy on foruns such as this one to prevent other people from having the sweet, superior quality sounds that only their gear delivers. I just realized my life is gone now, I'm in the Edward Snowden situation, and this is all your fault Mandari
-=Mandari=-
Mandari

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Posted : Feb 4, 2014 10:54
hey dude im sorry if you feel somehow offended now, but seriously there was no one i actually thought about while writing this. it was really not my intention to quote you, otherwise i would´ve done that ^^

so, i just tried to give another opinion based on my very personal experience i know it´s been somehow provoking, but everyone asked if he´s sure or even goes that far to say he should learn basics. no one stated that buying a nord could improve his learning experience in a very positive way, which decent speakers could too, but in a very different way in a completely different timeline.

the opportunity to get something one can touch and feel usually enriches your experience drastically, pushing you straight forward, speeding up your learning process in a charming way without destroying your eyes after sitting a whole day infront of it.... though sure ear damage might get an issue
getting to know a speaker i.e. takes years and theres not that bunch of successful moments pushing you. i remember some great moments i recognized things in my speaker i never heared before.... this has been after years thinking to know them. you can buy the uppermost topnotch monitoring system in a well treated room, it might free your way but will not make you hear compressor settings....

long story short term, when i started i was really depending on results, otherwise i think i had quit music dozens of times.... its just to keep yourself entertained somehow ^^

nothing´s my fault, there is no fault. there might be somehow bad decisions, but imho giving my cents here shouldnt be anything alike.

never mind, nobody quoted here, just added my experience which seems to be different

cheers
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