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no DJ on stage, no performer, no stage at all.
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Serag
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 05:18:17
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imagine a party where no dj or producer would be on stage. no stage at all.
circular speakers to surround the dancefloor 5.1 would be better..
but no idols, no ''look at me!''
a way to start looking inside us instead of worshiping someone?, distracted from the main reason why we are there, which is??
to let ur self free...
art stops being property of the creator as soon as someone else experience it.
djs or producers can be hided somewhere while playing.
what do u think about this?
PD: i dont care if it has already posted before. i dont want to spend 3 days searching for it  |
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DETOX
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 07:38
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I like seeing people like Hallucinogen, Man With No Name, Etnica, X Dream, Son Kite and more on stage so i tottally disagree with you.
Especially Max from Etnica performing a dj set or a live along with Mauri is a unique experience and boosts the whole thing to another level.
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 07:48
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i like this idea, i would totally do it!
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 08:01
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Why is the DJ a distraction? The DJ is on the decks cause he has to mix tunes, not for people to worship. The worshiping is not required, nor is it demanded by anyone and its not like trance DJs have a rider that includes a big enough stage in order to be seen by everyone...so I don't understand what the problem is?
Although, speaking for my self, I would place the DJ in the middle of the dancefloor, where one feels the full force of the P.A. 
Peace out.
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orca
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 09:13
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oh,this is such a load of BS,pardon my language..
who is worshiping?
where are you gonna get new music without artists?ha??? from the 90's?
lets cancel everything that is being created right now,not just music for matter..people worship movie actors,lets do movies without actors..lets just go to the cinema,focus on ourselfs and eat popcorn insted of worshiping the actors,they just a distraction no?
lets stop using windows,or mac..cos arnt we worshiping bill gates or steve jobs(rip)?
lets replace you with a robot in your day job..
lets die,cos if people can cancel our life pasion so easy-why live??
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Shiranui
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 12:02
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I think a lot of you are misunderstanding: He is talking about making the DJ/liveact hidden, not NOT having a DJ/liveact.
Someone threw a warehouse party here where the DJ was hidden behind a giant wall of speakers, and there were CCTV cameras on top of it pointing down at the crowd, and the DJ could watch the crowd on monitors.
I don't know if removing the DJ/producer entirely is necessary, but I wish that crews would spread their decorations out instead of having them circling the DJ like a frame.
I think the basic idea is to remove the reward of fame so that people are not tempted to create music just for the purpose of being famous. |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 12:11
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Yeah, some of them are totally cool. Like one of them Bechamel Boys wearing a thong. Why would you want that hidden?
And it's not his problem if somebody decides to make a fetish out of his balls sticking out.  |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 13:37
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On 2011-10-06 12:02, Shiranui wrote:
I think a lot of you are misunderstanding: He is talking about making the DJ/liveact hidden, not NOT having a DJ/liveact.
Someone threw a warehouse party here where the DJ was hidden behind a giant wall of speakers, and there were CCTV cameras on top of it pointing down at the crowd, and the DJ could watch the crowd on monitors.
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That's a bit daft, having a monitor to get feedback from the dancefloor, ennit...I'd much rather have everyone close to me as to feel the energy, instead of watching things on a monitor...no big stages either, have the DJ stage on the floor so the DJ is not any higher than the rest of the people, yet have a safe distance as to avoid people hassling the DJ, or insisting that he needs to take more drugs...etc...not that I would personally mind that, but it can lead to very messy situations, I know cause I've been there a few times in warehouse parties in the UK.
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On 2011-10-06 12:02, Shiranui wrote:
I don't know if removing the DJ/producer entirely is necessary, but I wish that crews would spread their decorations out instead of having them circling the DJ like a frame.
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Generally people tend to look towards the PA as they get a better sound by doing that. Hence the deco is largely placed around the spot where people tend to look more...anyway I am not too fussed about deco, so whatever.
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On 2011-10-06 12:02, Shiranui wrote:
I think the basic idea is to remove the reward of fame so that people are not tempted to create music just for the purpose of being famous.
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. People (some/most/fuck knows) make music because they love making music. If anyone makes music for the sole purpose of being famous, they'd make something other than psytrance...and even if they did make psytrance, if they made music without love, it would suck balls, hence you don't book them in the first place, ennit.
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Ellon
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 13:59
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On 2011-10-06 05:18:17, Serag wrote:
imagine a party where no dj or producer would be on stage. no stage at all.
circular speakers to surround the dancefloor 5.1 would be better..
but no idols, no ''look at me!''
a way to start looking inside us instead of worshiping someone?, distracted from the main reason why we are there, which is??
to let ur self free...
art stops being property of the creator as soon as someone else experience it.
djs or producers can be hided somewhere while playing.
what do u think about this?
PD: i dont care if it has already posted before. i dont want to spend 3 days searching for it
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I've been to such parties, mainly free techno parties, where the DJ is hidden behind a wall of speakers...cant say i liked it....guess i missed the human factor behind the music not to mention the heavy surroundings promoted by a black wall of speakers in front of you. On the other hand i really dislike when the DJ is playing in high grounds compared to the people dancing...
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J
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 14:58
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On 2011-10-06 07:38, DETOX wrote:
Especially Max from Etnica performing a dj set or a live along with Mauri is a unique experience and boosts the whole thing to another level.
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Indeed. Max on stage is really something to remember... The guy is unstopable.
For the record' there has to be a DJ / artist figure.
Imagine yourself on a concert listening to Metallica, when you can't see Kirk Hammet's solo. 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 15:15
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mica
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 15:29
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^ 2002 was the same situation, and 2000 was the worst, probably the most memorable boom but the worst sounding setup,
The original post has a fluffy nice idea but it's a solution to his perspective I think. He sees people worshiping as do many other people but that is not the case. Compare it to mass at church, people aren't worshiping the messenger "the priest" |
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 16:40
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I think it is not a problem in most EDM scenes, but with the popularization of EDM many newcomers have the same attitude at edm events that at rock concerts, just staring at the artist, and they pull themselves to the front packing the dancefloor.
Fuckin noobs.
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 16:40
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On 2011-10-06 15:15, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2011-10-06 08:01, disco hooligans wrote:
Although, speaking for my self, I would place the DJ in the middle of the dancefloor, where one feels the full force of the P.A.
Peace out.
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At Boom 2004 Shane Gobi told me that was one of the hardest setups to DJ on because of the delay between the DJ monitor and the rig. Trying to play live in that situation would be just as hard.
Pass out.
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A problem that can easily be sorted by delaying the DJ booth signal enough so that it arrives at your ears at the same time as the signal from the P.A.
Peace out.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 6, 2011 17:00
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I don't worship the DJ/Artist on the stage, but I do feed off of their energy. For myself I try to make an effort to have an energetic, communicative stage presence that other people can tap into.
If the DJ is dancing like a crazy person or obviously doing a lot of work that I appreciate, it sends the experience to another level.
I wouldn't like the no-dj no-performer setup.
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