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Nice fat and intresting synthesis programing trick
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 14:56
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Here is a nice little synth programing trick i have been messing with. I did it with fruity loops, but it can be done with any program that will let you map the same way.
1) program a simple synth sound. i used the fee plug TB4005, on chord mode for nice fat sound. use a saw oscilator. pan this channel hard left.
2) duplicate this channel. on this channel everything is the same, but use a square oscilator. pan this channel hard right.
3) Open a fruity loops formula control and in the formula enter just "a". now link the cutoff of both your channels to this "a" knob, so the nob controls both channel's cuts.
When you link each channel to the controler, in the mapping formula for the first channel enter: " 1.5-(Input*0.5+0.5) " and in the second channel enter " Input*0.5+0.5 ". Make sure "resolve conflicts" is unticked!
Now what you have is the "a" knob controls both cutoffs, but in an inverted manner, and the "a" knob controls both filters only from the halfway point and upwards, so niether channel can reach very low cutoff and die out.
So now you can play a long note and play with the cut, and you have great stereo action going on and a nice super fat sound.
4) send both channels to the same fx buss, and add a delay plug. put the delay plug on cross (pingpong), and now you have even nicer stereo action and a super duper killarghghhghghghh sound!
note: if you don't need an internal knob (the "a") to control both filters, but simply want your hw midi knob to do it, you can skip the whole formula controler step of course.
of course, many variations on this idea can be made 
 
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faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 15:17
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try also entering the following formulas in the formula controller:
(rand()*0.2)*a
this will add some random stutter, try changing 0.2 to other values see what happens...
SeededRand(b)*a
play with the "b" knob..
(SeededRand(b)*0.2)*a
play with the "b" knob..
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 15:18
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Hehehe... nice one, thanx mate!
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vipal
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 15:42
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When you link each channel to the controler, in the mapping formula for the first channel enter: " 1.5-(Input*0.5+0.5) " and in the second channel enter " Input*0.5+0.5 ". Make sure "resolve conflicts" is unticked!
how would this be for SX3, instead of FL? |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 15:45
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im not sure sx can map values like this.... perhaps it can i'm not big in sx. i bet it can be done also in the environment in logic. i can do it in fl and in scope.
imo one of the good things in fl is the internal routing and mapping stuff. i just do it there and export the audio for use in logic.
i wanted to edit also the first post and can't anymore -
the hard panning left and right of the channels is there for the ping pong delay to pick up, so that the square starts left and crosses to right and the opposite for the saw, quite pleasent sounding imo.
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newstate
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 15:59
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niceee onee man!
i tried modulating the filter panning with an LFO in albino instead of using delay its nice too
theres also nice possibilities linking stuff with the peak controller |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 16:01
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On 2007-04-25 15:59, newstate wrote:
niceee onee man!
i tried modulating the filter panning with an LFO in albino instead of using delay its nice too
theres also nice possibilities linking stuff with the peak controller
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word the peak controller is great too! i wish they made all sorts of wierdo internal controllers for fl.
Ok further improvement!
1) after you hook it all up, right click on the "a" knob and create an automation clip.
make 32 bars of this in the arrange, and set the automation so it starts at the lowest, gets to the highest in the middle, and ends with lowest at the end... like a long triangle.
2) click on the envelope channel and enable the lfo, also enable the multiply button so that the lfo's amount changes like you drew on the clip. change lfo speed and shape to your liking (fast shold sound nice) and enjoy
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 16:20
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faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 16:26
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On 2007-04-25 16:20, atropa-fatdata wrote:
i think cubase cant do that!
also in group channel add distortion and a band pass filter and link it to the a knob for some more filter mayhem!
goot tip faxi
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nice! i did it just now with NorthPole (an old and nasty filter, with distortion and envelope follower) and its wonderful!
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diskonekt
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 20:30
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Nice tip Faxi, will try it 
Thx 
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Apr 25, 2007 21:38
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On 2007-04-25 16:20, atropa-fatdata wrote:
i think cubase cant do that!
also in group channel add distortion and a band pass filter and link it to the a knob for some more filter mayhem!
goot tip faxi
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You can do it in Reaktor, if you're nerdy like me (works in most sequencers).
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