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NF4 / PCI-E be careful when buying those mobo's

Yuli
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 05:48
http://www.rme-audio.com/english/techinfo/nforce4_tests.htm

Check this review well, it seems sometimes the technology takes u back few steps. It seems to me after I tried 2 motherboards with NF4 chipset I will switch back to NF3           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
dtd
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 12:29
hi yuli, i'm in the process of building a new daw and i've read much about this issue. there are many bad reports and also some who say they didn't have any problems. since a few weeks, there hasn't been much discussion anymore. i'm not sure if the pci to pci-e bridge priority problem has been solved? or a switch made available to alter the priority settings?

can you tell me what you encountered when trying nf4 mobos?

all the best
Yuli
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 13:32
From my own experience with Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-9 nVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Socket 939 mobo, I had to reduce latency to 24ms in stress conditions, thing I havent done ever with my XP 2000+ and less ram than I have today.

I would also advise to read the following super long article

http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/nforce4-ultra/index.x?pg=1

In all the comparisons ( I am not a gamer myself so sorry if I make some stupid mistake in what I am going to say ) there is the part when they test 3d games, and there are those without sound like Doom and there are others that have surround soundtrack - there was a serious drop in NF4 abilities, according to the article in those games that used sound combined with the game.           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Yuli
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 13:59
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On 2005-12-04 13:44, nolightatend wrote:
Surely it does, since PCIe slots which used on NForce4 board use large system resources and their speeds are different from regular PCI slot so it causes the drops in sound.




YES! And that is a major problem since the AGP is getting discontinued slowly but surely, and the PCI-E format is problematic with Audio, since it was created to enhance the Graphic capabilities for gamers.

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This is your motherboard,
3 x PCI slots (PCI 2.3 compliant) . Most of Sound cards are PCI 2.2 compliant. I don't know what does it means but my sound card is PCI 2.2, so i will search for that kind of board. Not only you got Nforce Ultra edition it also contain GBL which can easily create conflict with two sound cards running.



I didnt understand 2.3 and 2.2 part, never knew this parameter existed - gonna check thise out. But anyway I use only 1 PCI slot and that is for the RME. I do not own any other PCI devices for that PC. So how can I have conflicts with 2 sound cards running?           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Yuli
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Posted : Dec 5, 2005 06:48
I agree man.

But those boards gonna be totally discontinued really soon

What then>?

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dtd
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Posted : Dec 5, 2005 07:54
maybe there will be a possibility to control the pci to pci-e bridge priority, or to throttle down the graphics card bandwidth and its processing power? or over the long run, maybe pci-e audiocards appear (although the could compete with the graphics card then...)
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