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new years eve 2009 tip world special!Raja ram+Lucas +Cosmo+Iraklis Mindphaser +Drury Nevil vs Tromo
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freezemgzn
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 13:37
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happy new year people ...thank you all for the great event we had that night.
we - me haris p freeze mgzn and yiotis twilight zone -did an event and we both respect dark trance or whatever they call it - we chose psykovski to appear but we took a no from the guys in thessaloniki aka cyberians to put him in an early morni flight and to appear in our event-at the same time rinkadink appeared in both athens and cyberians event....so judge for yourselves.
COSMO is not our cup of tea either but it was a last minute choice as we spoke with a lot of dark trance artists that couldn't performe and to put him down from the stage at the time he was playin thats it is bulshit..we are not mafia or BIG time show off promoters.we respected his madness and he got off the stage when we talked to him
as for Dino and talkin about us and only money .you do not know a shit about us both and we work both 17 hours a day to earl our living we are not DRUG DEALERS and all people know what we try to make in the trance scene!!and you were not there so is better to stop talking!!!
as for other things we put the timetable first and then 220 volts put their..i was sad because i really wanted to go and see mwnname myself...but ok.
we are more than ok with the 603 tikets and the people in the event we and Raja , cosmo , lucas , iraklis , drury and tromo had a great great time and that was the point...
as for the thing ins trance scene get over the so caleld war ...it was a great night with two sucecsfull events in athens ,and that the most important thing..
.....and one last thing...we will keep doing events in athens even if there are 15 events the same day because we love electronic musik and we serve this thing 25 years and either you like it or not we WONT EVER DO event to get money from the DRUGS......if others have problems with that that is their problem!
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 14:07
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I think organizers should pay more attention in the line ups.
Psychedelia is extremely subjective and one should really think twice before putting together people that play psy-trance, israeli full on, "dark trance" (or whatever its called), prog...etc.
I am not into fast, crazy music but I am also not against it, as long as I don't have to listen to it in a party where people that I am really into, are also playing.
When people are tripping they don't wanna listen to music that gives them negative vibes, be that dark trance, israeli full on...etc. If I am at a party where one of my favourite artists is playing and then someone that just plays completely different music, comes up, I am bound to get upset and eventually leave the venue with a sour taste.
As a party goer it is my responsibility to check who is playing before I attend (in favour of the organizers, they did post a clip of the kind of music this guy cosmo plays), to prevent a bitter taste after a good one, but promoters should not forget the first objective of a good trance party, THE FLOW.
Its not a festival where we go to see our favourite band, and then piss off home...its a party!
A party where there is a steady build up and an ultimate peak in the morning hours.
I have been to a lot of parties in Greece and abroad in the 15 years I've been a trance lover, and although I am not here to tell organizers how to do their job, PLEASE think about the crowd that makes you what you are.
There are people that like dark trance and that is fair enough, its what they like. But there are people who just can't stand it as it differs an awful lot, from the trance music we've been listening to and grew up with.
Think about the people who are begging for something to grab on to when their are tripping their minds off, dance their problems away and just release all that negative energy everyday life, inevitably infects them with.
This is not a dark trance bashing post, some people dig it and its their way of releasing their negative energy, but if promoters can't see the difference of this style to the more "classic" (for lack of a better word) psychedelic trance styles, then they should decide if they want to make parties with a proper flow, or some kind of "rock gig" where the band before just wants to rock the place harder than the next band, be that with stupidly higher BPM or harder sounds.
Who is the better act is not the objective of a trance party, but the harmonious flow of the sets (be that live or DJ sets) which will ultimately lead the crowd through a nice journey of coherent drive and morning peak time release.
Organizers (all of you), put some thought into your line ups instead of trying to quickly fill the gaps in a party, as you will upset the people... and remember what goes around, comes around.
Party goers, put some thought before you attend a party as it is your choice that will pick out the good parties from the "rock gigs". Teams that make good parties will live on to give us more religious moments and positive vibes.
Teams that make "rock/supermarket gigs" will either conform, or face obliteration.
Peace out.
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freezemgzn
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 14:30
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Hey Pipes i agree with you....plus one more thing...
do not bring always the same and the same names ...do you agree?
i agree with the following:
~~~~~Organizers (all of you), put some thought into your line ups instead of trying to quickly fill the gaps in a party, as you will upset the people... and remember what goes around, comes around.
Party goers, put some thought before you attend a party as it is your choice that will pick out the good parties from the "rock gigs". Teams that make good parties will live on to give us more religious moments and positive vibes.
Teams that make "rock/supermarket gigs" will either conform, or face obliteration.~~~~ |
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 14:33
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pipes +1000
flow indeed the most important in the music journey
But freezemgzn why do you write about drug dealing ?
im against too, thats ok, but theres no need to excuse yourself or claim that youre not selling drugs, i dont think anybody expecting you to do that or said it.
plus it sounds like an "attack" and a bad one
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thats the point and the more you love it the better you do it..
for example i paid 40 euros plus drinks so about 60-70 to enjoy only man with no name and left at the moment the next guy played,, didnt enjoy Urecken at all and got somehow dissapointed by Rinkadinks set, i expected something different.. dont want any answer or explanation to that, im gonna listen to rinkadink again somewhere else where he will play different and will like it
other ppl enjoyed the exact opposite  , you really can never please everyone, thats a big fact unfortunately 
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 14:43
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On 2009-01-02 14:30, freezemgzn wrote:
Hey Pipes i agree with you....plus one more thing...
do not bring always the same and the same names ...do you agree?
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I agree. I am sick of the same israeli acts (I have only been in Greece for a year, but I have had enough of skazi, IM...etc in the 7 years I was in the UK). If you think Greece has a problem with bringing the same acts, then London had an even bigger one with all the israeli acts they was booking up there. Of course the fact that there was a big trance party every week was a big factor, but still, I got sick of seeing flyers with Hommega/BNE artists, on almost a weekly basis.
BUT! There are a lot of psy-trance acts these days that make quality trance. Booking dark trance, israeli full on, or prog acts (that basically make house music these days), in order to avoid bringing the same names, is not the best way to go about creating a trance party line up...do you agree?
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freezemgzn
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 14:44
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Gutter happy new year.
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But freezemgzn why do you write about drug dealing ?
im against too, thats ok, but theres no need to excuse yourself or claim that youre not selling drugs, i dont think anybody expecting you to do that or said it.
plus it sounds like an "attack" and a bad one
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i am not excusing to anyone is sarcastic and its my personal choice all these years to attack in drug dealers that way....and i am not claimin in public that i am not doin that to get aplause or anything...
i respect musik lovers and people that are into musik..
and the attack if someone follows the magazine years is eternal to those people that get advntage beloved musik...it was just a frase answer to dinos words..and we did not mean anythin againt no one in this forum.....
we are here for the same purpose...we want to continue the journey...
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 14:58
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happy new year people too
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+1000 im with you
the bad is that people think that because you like the same music for example you share the same thoughts and values for life, where that exists nowhere in this universe
tired of israelli clique too, plastic dapa-dupa music....
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 16:01
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Answer to LNE78poi:
1:Dont mess festivals with a metal live that you go to see a limited amount of bands in a certain style
2:You are not some kind of judge to wait for Cosmo to give an answer here like if he was suspect for murder
3:Again cause you are not a judge you cant judge people especially after you went to a party that you didnt have a clue of what music a certain dj was playing
4:If you want DJ/Bands to play what you like to hear like i said before know better what the bands/dj are playing in the live you are about to go or if you dont bother to do that go a club at Athinon-Lamia street and stick a 20euro on a persons forehead to play a track you want to hear like in the movie Paraggelia .-
PS For your information if you can remember next years Rockwave we had Immortal which are a black metal band mixed with various bands as well and none had any problem but that again was a festival and not a live with limited bands that you go to hear a particular genre so yeah....
Thats it and iam not gonna spend time with this subject again cba tbh
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 17:02
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....hello there happy new year peoples...
respect to the organizers...Raja and lucas were great and the vibe was great , affordable prices on the bar and free water supply was +...
....wait for the next one me + ++some friends...
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piko_bianko
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 17:06
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perfectly said Pipes&Slips..
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i myself remember a time where the music in every party had such a flow, that sometimes couldn't tell whether the dj's swapped places or not. the music started at the opening and kept kept kept going till the last kickdrum was played at the end. the flow was flawless, the bpm ascended gradually, the whole party was a trip by itself.
-maybe a bit offtopic, but part of the current conversation- the worst thing i see nowadays that almost everybody has adapted into freely (audience,artists,djs,promoters) is the end of the live set, the applause, the pause of the music. for me (and i speak for myself only) it's one of the worst things that had happened to our dancefloors. i don't wanna dance to 60-90minute parts with break for coffee and cookies, applauses; i wanna dance all night long; alone; in my mind; with my friends; with everybody. non stop that is.
parties nowdays have become live rock concerts (only thing left is that every group ends his set with drum-crescendos and tuttis with a final SPLASH).
i envy that 'dark' artists/culture haven't fully adopted this 'concept' yet; i admire and respect that.
as a not big darkpsy fan myself, i don't want to be meant that i compare styles, but i criticize false musicflow at parties. (started happening a lot these last 2 years)
 cheers to all, and happy new year.
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 17:16
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....happy new year....first of all the organizers have the right to say they had 600 tikets for me the event was much more than 700 people on the pick..
ok guys ...tell what you want....
it was a fantastic party...we came from xilokastro for Raja ram but we also dance to the tunes of lucas and natural high guy Iraklis,.as far cosmo musik we did not like his musik but it was around 300 people dancing at his tunes - mostly young people tha left after his set almost half - and so they have come for Cosmo and nobody had the rihgt to kick him off stage...
respect to the musik that anyone chooses to bring...
me and my company thanx for the great night and we will be again there for freeze events because we respect it for years for is quality...
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 17:52
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To Pentothalyan:
1) By talking about a rock concert, I only proved your example to be wrong. Also, what I despise from rock concerts is the attitude of rock stars, who do their own thing no matter what and hardly pay attention to the crowd.
2) Cosmo is not a suspect for murder, but he is a suspect of being one more dj who's more interested to be praised and look like a rock star, than be a dj for dancing. If he wants this impression to linger on after my accusation in here, it definetaly is his problem. Otherwise he should try to prove me wrong.
2) Refresh your english and then we may discuss about the rest. I understood fuckall.
Pipe&slippers, I agree about the lineup, yet I feel that this dj should have read the lineup too beforehand. It's his job as a dj to pick the right music before he arrives in the venue, right m8? I never claimed that he was unable to adjust. Maybe he is not. What I surely know is that he didn't even gave it a shot.
This whole war thing regarding dark trance, is beyond me. I only wanted to hear trance. If it was tsifteteli trance, tsamiko trance or country trance and even though capable to make me feel ecstatic while dancing, I would have kept my mouth shut.
You can put Count Dracula all over your music, or Satan himself if you like, and still make my dance like a nutter. I didn't get any atmosphere there, just a mediocre, ridiculously fast music.
I notice that there is a great difficulty to define this genre anyway. Is it terror trance, horror trance, dark trance, wtf is it? Someone had to address this problem. Maybe this type of artists should gather and make a new name for the music, cos if they all sound like this, I disagree that it is trance at all.
About the organizer who talked about patching his program. That was a mistake of organizing and next time, you should be more careful. Apart of that, the whole setup was cool.
Regarding drugs, I'm afraid I never even asked about it. And frankly, I don't care what you're going to do with your party, it's yours. Just keep in mind that, this music was created having drugs as an inspiration. It is true, whether you like it or not.
I personally don't take anything anymore, my crazy teenage years are gone a long time ago. But I feel you should take it easy on that matter. I mean, I didn't even mention it. Chill out.
Since trance parties are known to gather ppl and accept them regardless of who they are or what they do, if their rich or poor, take drugs or not, I'm sorry to see such an intolerance from your parts. If you don't like drugs, good for you, but avoid such racist statements, allright?
I'm glad mushrooms are illegal.Once I took,you know what happened?I laid in a field of green grass for 4 hours, going, 'My God, I love everything.' This is a hazard to our country, how are we going to sell weapons if we realize we are all one?" Bill Hicks |
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freezemgzn
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 18:45
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regarding the following ,if you notice above i never said anythin about people doing drugs i am talking people that sell drugs.thats a difefrent thing...
so where is racism?LNE78poi....so i do not get the point of the comment...you understood wrong...and believe me i know well the trance psy culture!
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Posted : Jan 2, 2009 23:03
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happy new year to ALL with health nd happyness!!!!
ahahahha DarkPsy Vs Fullon.............pff wtf
iam unlucky to wasnt there to listen DrURyTromo:(
whthll happen with u ppl \\
all before knows who play in dis eve ......... all knows the different style of thos artists............................
som ppl go for drurytromo som 4 cosmo som 4 raja som 4 lukas................wth R u talkin about now......
PeAcElOvEuNiTyRESPECT N NjOY 09 ma best wishes!
b0m b0m!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 20:14
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hahhahaa!!!!!LNE78poi you are a funny man..you ask from cosmo to apologize to YOU because YOU didnt like his music..hahahahahaha i still laugh..come on get serious..me and my friends really enjoyed his style..but you know there is a word which is called TASTE(gousta dld)..dont forget that and if YOU dont like it stay home and listen to slayer,darkthrone,stratovarius or whatever you like..the party was great and i really look forward to listen to other dark psy artists here in athens not only salonika...HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE |
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