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blom
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Posted : Jul 15, 2009 15:56
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Wow I just saw the topic thanks everyone for the great inputs!
Long live GOA  |
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XwhiteRabbitX
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andreas
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 13:53
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I never thought about the style when I wrote the songs, but this is how it has been classified by psyreviews:
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| "Musically, this is what I guess we'd classify as Newskool Goa, a genre I generally find as completely useless and devoid of integrity as the "cover band" ethos it carries. SubConsciousMind however, has something different to add into the mix. I'm not entirely sure what it is -- but that's the strong point, the moneyshot, the "something extra" that keeps you entertained... " |
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It's available for free download:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/music/album-intermezzo-extended
I hope you enjoy it.
 Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch |
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soulfood
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Posted : Aug 24, 2009 02:58
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I LOVE this!
I love how you remind me that psy trance IS actually REAL music |
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Addictive Elements
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Hi im gettin this error message :
"This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.
This limit is reached.
To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete link of the file to get further information.
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I think u need to re-upload it again ? could u?
----- Hippies...they wanna save the earth....but all they ever do is smoke pot ---- |
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Gunter
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Posted : Aug 24, 2009 17:10
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On 2009-08-22 13:53, subconsciousmind wrote:
I never thought about the style when I wrote the songs, but this is how it has been classified by psyreviews:
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It's available for free download:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/music/album-intermezzo-extended
I hope you enjoy it.
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Yes, I do enjoy it a lot. Especially "Essenz". Thank you |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 17:54
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On 2009-04-18 20:39, Filteria wrote:
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On 2009-04-18 19:41, Soul Kontakt wrote:
So why don't you make a brilliant gem and give to the people what they really want to hear? I know because it's really difficult to get to that state in music production and ideas...Good luck though...
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You seem to miss my point. What does your post have to do with what I wrote? I think you should re-read my post. I didn't say anything about "music production and ideas..." I said that the scene is too small and divided to have hits.
Its impossible to make everyone happy with all these subgenres. Trance is a small scene with few people. And becomes even smaller with all these categories. Thats why we dont have hits today.
Anyway, I dont want to turn this into some genre discussion. I just wanted to answer rich
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I do not know what people are talking about. The first track of your album is fresh and absolutely beautiful. Up there with any old gem. I have been playing trance since 1993... I am an old schooler digging the new school
Now, for me sometimes the music is a bit too similar to the old gems. I love it don't get me wrong, but I get a bit stuck on the etnica, astral, MWNN, Asia 2001, Miranda, Subcouds, Man made man, transwave to mention a few... but also I would like to hear and play more music like semsis, Darshan, Tristan, Ecens, Ominus, underhead... It was one of the benefits of trance from 1995 to 1998... Each artist had its own interpretation of the sound. You could hear a track and first you would know if it was swedish, english, australian, german... as well as you could hear which artist it was (The kicks, the synths, the leads were all very personal)... and all the tracks easily mixed together. Now the psy trance scene is so fragmented, that mixing diferent styles within a set is quite hard. Although I am doing it
What Can I say I love what you guys are producing, and after 20 years Djing many styles of music, this new goa wave is very inspiring. This is pretty much what I have played this summer. |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 18:28
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On 2009-04-27 18:19, John Doe® wrote:
Filteria is rocks!!
"Daze Of Our Lives" is rocking my iPOT. 
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The other day I was biking around the city with "Daze" on my headphones thinking: old school Goa trance was so transient. I mean, few artists stuck around to really perfect the style. They were in and out; an album or two in the three years between 1995 and 1998 that we now call "the golden age." Prana came out with an album and a half before bailing into electroclash. Transwave had three albums in two years before moving on. T.I.P. had one collection of singles and an ambient album before dissolution. Etnica/Pleiadians were fairly prolific; I think you can count 4 albums between the two projects as fitting with the old school style (although Equator is really borderline). Hallucinogen had two in three years, nothing since. MWNN veered off into commercial territory before reversing course. Total Eclipse released two albums in two years. Cosmosis maintained a fairly steady output but the quality of his work dipped. Same with Shakta. X-Dream are marvels but abandoned Goa trance fir greener creative pastures. MFG and Astral Projection might qualify as exceptions--they were in it for a long while and came out with several albums before drifting into general inactivity.
My point here is that Filteria has been at it for longer than the classic Goa style was the dominant style in the psytrance scene. He started out making a particular sound... and since then he has continually improved it. By year five, most of the old school masters had moved on to something else. Back in 1999 and 2000 I remember the general sentiment amongst old schoolers was simply that our favourite artists had given up on something we felt still had great creative potential. We didn't think they were through developing the ideas and concepts of Goa trance--but the artists wanted a change, something different. Our argument was very specific: you don't have to stick around and make the same old thing over and over, no! The idea was to take Goa trance and develop it further, to reach genuinely new horizons without the wholesale abandonment of the qualities that made the classics so precious to us. But that was it. Aside from Dimension 5, Ra, and Chi-A.D., virtually everyone moved on to explore minimal/techtrance and, later, full-on.
Filteria today sounds like what I imagine the old school greats might have sounded like if they had remained on course. It is too bad that some old school fans can't feel the magic in this music any more... then again, it amuses me to think of these same people writing the same damn thing about Suntrip ten years from now... "why don't they make them like they used to?"
Nostalgia is a funny thing. It takes time to develop. I'll own up to the fact that I never really got into Etnica back in the day. Their music seemed kind of indistinct and poorly produced. But it grew on me, and now I love their old work. I mention this because you don't always have a positive impression of music you haven't experienced before... your response to music is shaped by your experiences with it--the set and setting, your mental state, where you're at in your life. If you really think about it... how you listen to music is almost as important as what you listen to. So ask yourself: how did you listen to music ten years ago? How do you listen now? How much music did you have access to back then? And now, are you overwhelmed by it? I could go on developing this point but I will just leave it here. Think about it. Personally, I think we have access to some absolutely wonderful music today...
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I talked to Prana and Raja Ram back then... as well as many artists and label owners I interviewed for a site I had. The reason why they were not so prolific was IMHO because the technology was different. The would spend hours and hours in the studio to produce this music. It was so hard to get a hold of them many times. I think also the labels were highly selective and the music was more secretive. I say this because just to press vynils it costs a bunch more money than CDs and are a pain to ship. And also vynil is not the best medium to copy from. So very few releases went out and very few were freely shared. The releases in many cases had fluoro inks and the artwork was just unreal. I really believe they were a work of craftsmanship. Nowadays, the cycles for production are much faster. Music is so easily shared and distributed. People just eat music so fast and times are reduced to produce. Also the technology available is so much better. You can midi everything and their mother lol back then you had to do your 303, 202, 101, juno 60, your korgs etc by hand live. That is why Etnica were 4 people and most producers were @ least two. |
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Basilisk
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 18:56
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Thanks, that is a really interesting perspective!
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 03:26
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On 2009-08-22 13:53, subconsciousmind wrote:
I never thought about the style when I wrote the songs, but this is how it has been classified by psyreviews:
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It's available for free download:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/music/album-intermezzo-extended
I hope you enjoy it.
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wow, really enjoying this album man! some amazing tunes on this one, cheers!
bOM
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 09:32
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My favorites in no particular order, from this thread:
Subconscious Mind - Past be Past
Magic and Witchcraft - Between colors
Magic and Witchcraft - Star Eye
Mindsphere - We have a dream
The are already on my set. BTW, this is just after a quick listen, I am sure I will find more. I am very impressed with the quality of the releases @ Ektoplazm. Huge kudos to you Basilisk. It is a pity we did not meet when I was in the US.... or maybe we did |
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Oct 3, 2009 01:03
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blom
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Posted : Oct 3, 2009 18:44
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+1 Thank You! |
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