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New room, how's the bass?

Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 18:22:46
Hey guys,

currently writing in a new room and I'm wondering how my bass translates. Been spending more time constantly tweaking the kick and bass than writing a track, so I need some closure.

Tried to reference some other fat basslines by frequency analysis and simply by touching my woofers and comparing.

I'm using Quadrafuzz with its default settings, Izotope Alloy and an EQ with LP at 3k, HP at 40k and narrow 3db cuts at: 65Hz, 200Hz, 230Hz and a wide 5db cut at 800Hz

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ambeof

How's it sounding?

Thanks in advance!
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 18:42
you try to much. it's happens to me a lot also..
it's sounds to me nice but liitle bit unnatural. something wired about it. i'm not sure. i guess that you put too much things on the bassline and made it sounds like that. maybe you can upload also the bassline without anything on it.
i used in one track alloy on my bassline but acttualy i think it's not very helpfull. it fucks the dynamic of the bassline little bit and the low end.
i think that you need kick that peaks at lower frequency to have more low end and to make the bassline and kick be more attached.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 20:48


Thanks for the reply man, I've uploaded a version without Alloy and also a version with no inserts (except sidechain compression) on the bass

I do prefer the sound without Alloy, sounds more balanced.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2js0x4 (No Alloy)


http://www.sendspace.com/file/1aqrpi (No Inserts)



dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 25, 2010 03:51
for my opinion the one with no inserts is the best. you boosted too much the low end with the inserts. it sounds unnatural. not pleasent. maybe you can boost the low end little bit, very carefully. close little bit the filter decay in the vst. very carefully. and i think maybe you close little bit the cuttoff of the filter at the vst. i realy think it's better without the inserts. deffently no alloy!           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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FallowSlave


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Posted : Aug 25, 2010 14:34
there's little interest working on your kick bass in isolation. Just because it sounds well on its own doesn't mean it will work with a bunch of layers on top. That said it sounds OK.
Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 25, 2010 16:18
True that, here's a snippet of the full mix. Still needs more layers, but I'm struggling with opening that project and working on anything but the bass.

This is using the No Alloy bass.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/u722ts
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 25, 2010 18:31
Quote:

On 2010-08-25 14:34, FallowSlave wrote:
there's little interest working on your kick bass in isolation. Just because it sounds well on its own doesn't mean it will work with a bunch of layers on top. That said it sounds OK.



you suppose adapt the sounds to your bassline and kick.           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 26, 2010 18:48
So in that case how would you rate the whole track sounds? I keep on switching between a cut at 55Hz or a cut at 90Hz, unable to tell which suits the mix netter. I find that the cut at 200Hz really clears up the "wooly" sound to the bass.

When using an EQ with an analyzer, do I want to make cuts at all the peaks other than the fundamental? (bringing them down to as close to 0db as I can) So if, for example, 60Hz is my fundamental, should I make cuts at all the other peaks? I don't have any boosts on my EQ, just cuts.
Midnight Sun
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Posted : Aug 26, 2010 22:21
The point here is that you have to like how it sounds, dont focus that much on peaks, turn off analyzers, make it sound as you like and youre done. Also every bass has its own different eq, even in the same note on two different tracks bass eq should change. What "Chichke" said is also true, even if kick and bass sound good together alone that doesent mean they will with the other sounds. Good luck!!           ProtoDrive https://soundcloud.com/protodrive
Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 26, 2010 23:21
Thing with me, especially now, is I can't decide what kind of "vmmmmmm" (100Hz and below) tone I want. A notch at 50Hz gives a different character to a notch at 80Hz but I'm not sure which will benefit the mix more.
Midnight Sun
ProtoDrive

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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 00:06
That is totally up to you mate, and if for example your bass is in G you may want to work arround 95Hz.. Remember that it needs to sound clean but not empty           ProtoDrive https://soundcloud.com/protodrive
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 00:23
i don't almost put eq's on my basslines.
i did lilltle notch for the bassline at my last track tough. but just one.
if you saw cosmosis's tutorials so he said also that he doesn't put anything on his basslines most of the time.
about a month ago i tried again to put eq and compressors on the bassline so all the inserts were full but after about 2 weaks that i stopped working on the bassline i realized all those inserts not improve my bassline at all, they even ruin it.
i think 95% of the bassline is your preset           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 00:38
DMT, how does that full mix clip I posted sound? Just took a track whose bass I really dig and threw it into Cubase. Put a filter on my master channel and low passed to around 120 and A/B'd between the reference and my bass, tweaking the EQ to sound as close to the reference as I could (my bassline is in E and that one is in D.) Going to listen to it in a bit without the filter once my ears have adjusted. Switching the filter off now just makes everything sound really thin.
Midnight Sun
ProtoDrive

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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 02:46
Well I think "no inserts" one sounds better and let me tell you one more thing now that you mention it: you shouldnt do that of comparing and then trying to imitate the track y ou like because of two main problems: 1) the track you are comparing with isnt probably using the same sounds or vsts as you and it is mastered and yours is unmastered, so doing that has no point at all. 2) Music is about creation NOT imitating, we need more variety of sounds, so what i recommend you to do (If you really expect getting big in this) is to create your very own sound Youll eventually reach your perfection, have patience and youll be there           ProtoDrive https://soundcloud.com/protodrive
vipal
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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 06:35
please soundcloud it
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