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New processor

Bonji


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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 19:33
Just read this in the news.

Israelis developed a new processor working at the speed of light.

The processor performs 8 trillion operations per second, equivalent to a super-computer and 1,000 times faster than standard processors, with 256 lasers performing computations at light speed.

This will help software quite a bit in the future
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 19:38
Interesting stuff...

Any links with more info on that?
Bonji


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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 20:40
It was on my Yahoo news, but has since disappeared. I will post it if I find it again.
Mike A
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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 00:39
Imagine 1000 z3ta+ plugins running at once
Chi
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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 03:02
Sorry, that's bullshit.

Last year Russia was developing a processor 3 times as faster as the processores of that time, costing 10 times less. Many media hype, nothing happened... that's just rumors, there's nothing like that happening in the next 5 years... and after 5 years, the desktop processors will have that processing power!

Also India was developing a super-cpu and i even heard Portugal was too (ha! what a joke!)

sorry to disappoint!
Kaz
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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 12:59
Chi: I know people at my university (the Technion: the technological institute of Israel) are working furiously (and have been for years, and will be for a few more until the idea will mature) on developing the quantum computer, which will give around that performance. The research at my university at both electrical engineering and physics is considered to be of a VERY high level internationally.

The basic concept is this - semiconducters and transistors are very inefficient today - it's a technology decades old, which is pushed to it's limits. But the basic concept is a very good one. But what if you can work on the signal processing on the level of a SINGLE electric particle? Suddenly, you can shrink down the size of everything by scales that would make the current CPUs nothing more than lumbering innefficient hulks. A single particle, moving at speeds at the speed of light goes 300,000km per second. Assuming that only one particle will be inside the chip (due to technological limits), including the statistical probabilities of it getting from point A to point B inside the chip, we are talking about trillions of processes per second - 80 trillion may or may not be the exact number, but it seems like a reasonable (if slightly conservative, a slight calculation here gave me 120 trillion, but then again, I don't know the details of the technology).

In the first generation of that technology.

... of course - the research is far from complete. The dificulties with working on a single particle level are great (for all of you people that know a bit of quantum mechanics, the technical difficulties in order to control the pathway of a single particle moving at the speed of light are great, especially when working in small scales). Just like the gene mapping project - great. So they mapped genes. That's step one. Now what the hell are you going to do with all of that information so you can understand it and use it?

Even a prototype is nothing more than a stage in massive development which will last for at least a few more years before you'll actually be able to see the results. And yes - I was inside the labs where some extremely heavy-duty scientists (some of the leading minds of the Israeli academic/research world) are currently working on this.

I do not understand how everything here works except in the most general concepts, but this is the basic idea. Hope I've been informative.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Bonji


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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 16:39
Chi it's not only rumors. But what do you think will happen if somebody has this CPU ?

Intel will pay it in a second.
Kaz
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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 17:20
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994331

Ahh - this is the article mentioned!

While quantum computers still have at least a few years of development, this already exists - the optical processor, first generation is now available. BUT, it is very limited and not all-purpose technology, and at the moment, it'll cost much more than a powerful server.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Bonji


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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 18:49
Thanks kaz

The question now is, - will they succeed in making it mainstream?
They will need major investors.

But nonetheless this is a huge step forward. And actually if you think about it they are comparatively very cheap.
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