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antic


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Posted : May 18, 2004 22:27
lately I gladly noticed that many so-called "release groups" (groups that rip & spread mostly promo-CDs on the p2p networks, like gEm, psyCZ etc.) started some kind of campaign for the artist & labels.

for example they rip the CDs as a single file without any gaps, so it becomes useless for djs. they attach direct links to psyshop as one of the files in "release package". they place a text "please support the artist" in ID3 tag and finally they encode it at max 256kbps.

I'm really glad that this is happening, because it proves that they realized they destroy psy-trance scene releasing the stuff for free. I'm aware of the fact that for most of people who use p2p it makes no difference, but I think at least some of them will think about what they're doing...

ofcourse it would be great if they stopped "releasing" at all, but I guess it's a step in the right direction...
Basilisk
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Posted : May 18, 2004 22:56
Right, ahh, whats the .cue file for then? Just for fun? I thought it was so you can burn that single MP3 to disc really easily. And how about releasing stuff in 320kbps? That is support too?

Its a token effort, welcome and all, but lets not be crazy here. These guys are still facilitating the dissemination of commercial releases to cheap-ass fuckhead djs all over the world.

Keep it 192 or less, drop a few ads for the shops in every release, and put a few overdubbed words in some songs on an album noting that the music is a 'trial copy' and then you'll be seeing me praise these groups.
antic


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Posted : May 18, 2004 23:09
yeah basilisk, you're totally right, but maybe you should read carefully what I wrote?

I'm far from getting crazy about it! I just wanted to point out that something is happening and it's a right direction to take, because I don't think that file sharing can be stopped anymore and if they wont "release", then somebody else will. but I know people search for releases from those specific groups (and most hubs require it), so if they change their attitude, it _may_ cause some people to think about it too...
Basilisk
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Posted : May 18, 2004 23:36
Well, that would indeed be a positive trend, if they are to take further steps. I was mainly pointing out that it is one step forward, two steps back with these people.

I won't deny its a tricky situation, if any group wants to edge closer to doing some good for the scene... if these guys are realizing the damage they do, whats the right thing? Give up and someone will take their place in a week or less, so there's simply no point in it. Even if they do something along the lines I suggest - overdubbing a 'trial copy' warning - you'd probably find that group blacklisted from the servers. There is a pressure point among pirates, you can bet on that. I almost think audiogalaxy was better for trading simply because rare older stuff could be found and there was no central authority dictating what is kosher to share and what isn't. The DC++ feifdoms have too much control and too few scruples. I always laugh myself silly when I find myself banned because I share no new releases - just rare/obscure out-of-print classics and free stuff (antiscarp and so on). Ah well.

Labels could always smarten up and do like Kalle/tranceform does - spoof upcoming releases its remarkably effective in part due to how crazy people go for downloading - they'll leave the spoof around on the share and well, that's how it gets around so well! There is a lot of room for creativity here and it doesn't take much to learn how to make a proper "group release" nearly indistinguishable from the real thing. Face some facts: every CD gets ripped - so the question is are you gonna let someone else do it, or are you gonna do it yourself and have full creative control over the process? just some provocative thoughts for the industry people here.

Peace.
TiMMY
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Posted : May 19, 2004 18:27
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On 2004-05-18 23:36, basilisk wrote:
Face some facts: every CD gets ripped - so the question is are you gonna let someone else do it, or are you gonna do it yourself and have full creative control over the process? just some provocative thoughts for the industry people here.



Damn right!!!
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