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johnny 5
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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 13:25
wasssup people
the time has come 4 me to go and buy a new pc
i need some help from people how knows computers please.
i have 4000shekel -/+ to spend
already got soundcard delta 1010pci
basicly i need to know once and for all do i go for intel like i always do or AMD? price isnt really the issue what is better?
most of my work is sofware based.
i want 1 or more gig of ram.
and what about motherboards? is there better ones? i always bought what the store said is best, but this time i want the pc to work for more the 2 mounth before it starts givin me shit.
sp please any advise on any part will be most helpfull.
peace
Morax
Triac

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Posted : Aug 18, 2004 14:12
hey johnny,

amd has been proven to be better cpu for
mathemathic calculations, the p4 has a problem with
its floting point calcuilations, and this problem take a big place
when you work with audio.

my suggestion is that you check some amd forums,
and see what is better for your budget.

try the amd64 socket 754 3.2Ghz, i think its
a good choise comparing the price.

if its too expensive try to read about amd athonXP 3200.

about the ram ... a very important issue
nowadays, i recommand OCz or Corsair,
each cpu, and board goes with its specific memory.
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 00:17
i would say go for an p4 3.2
with 1 g of dual ddr kingston memory
all in a abit ic7g motherboard
its one hell of a fast pc man and not so expensive

but amd also good

orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
Morax
Triac

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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 00:44
i donno about pentium really much,

but whatever you buy, check at the ram factory web,
that the specific ram you take will be completely
compatible with the motherboard.

take only checked combos.
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 00:52
i agree morax you are right
kingston and corsair i think they are the best


orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
Morax
Triac

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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 03:21
orange, if you ask me.. hehe

i really recommand OCz. (Corsair and Mushkin also very good)

the quality ROCKS and the price much lower than cosair for instance.

check their web: http://www.ocztechnology.com

you can pick their best ram type for your system,
and if you have any questions you can ask there
in OCz professional forums for all the memory issues.

similar to other famous memories like kingston,
the OCz has lifetime warranty, so nothing to worry about.

Bom
johnny 5
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 6, 2004 18:55
thanx for the help guys
i got my choices down to this:
*p4 3.0 1m cache with asus p4p800 deluxe
or
*athelon 64 3200 with msi k8n neo platinum
i checked forums and articals trying to decide amd or intel and i think amd is suposed 2 be better for audio after all i read.
i read somewhere that the only think p4 is better is in " hyper-Threading ", what does it mean?
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Sep 7, 2004 00:44
Check also Twinmos Ram.

I am using 2x 512mb Twinmos Twister and it is the master of ram. Best i used till now            Signature
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Sep 7, 2004 01:05
i would suggest not to go for the prescot (1mb cache)go for the northwood

prescots have proven unstable and very warm
they will work better in the new generation motherboards

orange           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
johnny 5
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 8, 2004 10:42
last question (i hope)
whats the diffrence between amd athelon xp and amd 64, i meen is there any diffrence for audio work?
Pavel
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Posted : Sep 8, 2004 19:39
Quote:

On 2004-09-08 10:42, johnny 5 wrote:
last question (i hope)
whats the diffrence between amd athelon xp and amd 64, i meen is there any diffrence for audio work?



Hey Jonny i would go for the AMD64 (actually i plan to do so in the near future) cause it's better investment in the future when the new 64Bit Windows OS will arrive and with it all the major vendors will release compatible 64Bit drivers for their hardware (M-Audio for example already did). Also all the newest Audio software is planned to have 64Bit compatibility like the 3rd SX that is being released today
So basically today it doesn't make much difference, but in 1 year or so it will make a bigger difference. I personally holding the purchase until next year.
Good luck           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
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IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Sep 8, 2004 22:34
Hyper-Thread is a technology that emulates processors.... so you use parallel programs (that work in parallel processors or clusters) in your computer with only one hyper-threading processor like if you have two processors...

In my opinion it´s more marketing than evolution, at least for now, when few programs work in parallel... Also the benchmarks are not that good...

My Athlon 2200+ works faster than my cluster of 4 P4 2600 (each processor with hyper-thread, and Openmosix, so theorically 8 processors) for some jobs, even when I´m listening to music at the same time...
More info...

http://www.intel.com/technology/hyperthread/

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Psyloid


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Posted : Sep 8, 2004 23:03
me thinks you should take athlon 64 on nvidia nforce3 mobo with 1G of preferably kingston ram and some serial ata drives in raid an ya have ya bitchin' system

Ps : for your sake,don't go for via schipsets
johnny 5
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 9, 2004 08:02
then i guess amd 64 it is,
anyone has anything good or bad to say about
msi k8n neo platinum motherboard???
Psyloid


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Posted : Sep 9, 2004 09:26
I can only tell u that i always worked with amd on asus bords with NO VIA chipsets and once i bought an MSI mobo with via KT400 and it gave me loads of shit
I would reccomend asus nforce3 motherboard
in the end u do what u want but i learnd for myself to stay away from VIA chipsets and maybe MSI too (for motherboard then)
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