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New member/producer asking kindly for feedback
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Ogonen
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Posted : Dec 13, 2013 22:33:53
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Hi u guys/galz!
I'm a newly registered forum member (long time reader), who just finished my very first attempt at something hopefully related to psytrance.
As you can probobly hear in the tune, im a sucker for melodies and somewhat "chilly" music. I also tried (at least in the first part of the song), to move away from the "kbbb" pattern and try something of my own.
I would very much like some feedback on what u think of my music and composition. The areas I struggle the most with is (like everyone else) arrangment and above all; the transitions between elements/parts (buildups etc).
I'll be really happy if u would give me eight minutes of your time and tell me what u think.
https://soundcloud.com/ogonen/tra-skmongo
/Kindly,
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vipal
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Dec 14, 2013 13:06
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knocz
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Posted : Dec 14, 2013 15:37
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Hmm nice attempt 
It has a lot of space, and a nice usage of sounds. The mix on most elements is quite good, and it mostly falls in together. There is no main lead sticking out, that's one place you could enhance on..
I agree with Vipal, your kick, bass and beat are way off.. this might be correctable in the mastering stage, if you give the master engineer your beat stem and he applies production wise effects (that is, effects with the intent of shaping the sound and producing it, not just slight enhancements), but if you start out with a better sounding beat from the beginning everything can only come out better.
So, in psytrance, the main figure is the beat: and in your tune this isn't mixed in the traditional way.. this could work out (hallucinogen, for example) but the overall gain between your kick and bass is off too. Try to give the bass a little more volume, but make sure it's a couple of db's below the kick -> then feed both to a compressor. The kick has the higher peaks, so you want the kick peaks to be above the compressor threshold and "drive" the compressor: when the kick comes in, the compressor starts to compress.
Then you can use the compressor attack, release and ratio to dictate how the compressor is going to behave, driving your beat as well.
This helps your kick and bass come together, and you can adjust the overall power of both the elements between each other. So, you can still have a tune where the beat is not in the front of the mix, but still have a string relation between the kick and bass in the beat.
Else, the track sounds nice and clean Not exactly my cup of tea, but I'd like to hear where you go from here 
 Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz |
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klippel
Stereofeld
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Posted : Dec 14, 2013 15:42
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hey dude,
very nice song of yours. you are good a creating a nice space/atmosphere. good choice of kick/bass and melo/fx, sounds a bit oldschool prog to me which i totally love.
i would like to have the melodic elements more upfront in the mix, they sound somewhat disconnected and the subs of your kick are too loud. try to get a better balance and opt for a clearer mix.
about the arrangement, the song is well built, but i could use some transition elements. maybe sounds with longer delays, a somewhat more complex arrangement, may a layer more here or there.
but that aside its already a very nice tune and stylewise right up my alley. keep at it!
cheers!
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
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Ogonen
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Posted : Dec 14, 2013 19:25
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Thanks alot u guys for taking time to listen...
I listened to it again and your absolutely right about the kick/bass. The kick is too loud, and it has this really subby, long tail.
So I'll probably try to tweak the sample a bit more, with a faster decay and maybe cut just a little of that 50-80 hz boom out.
I'll also try to make the bass a little more snappy/transient.
Again, thank u so much for giving me your time. I'll post an update when i have something new.
Kindly,
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Ogonen
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Posted : Dec 14, 2013 23:30
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On 2013-12-14 15:42, klippel wrote:
hey dude,
very nice song of yours. you are good a creating a nice space/atmosphere. good choice of kick/bass and melo/fx, sounds a bit oldschool prog to me which i totally love.
i would like to have the melodic elements more upfront in the mix, they sound somewhat disconnected and the subs of your kick are too loud. try to get a better balance and opt for a clearer mix.
about the arrangement, the song is well built, but i could use some transition elements. maybe sounds with longer delays, a somewhat more complex arrangement, may a layer more here or there.
but that aside its already a very nice tune and stylewise right up my alley. keep at it!
cheers!
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Thank u so much for you feedback. As i said, this my very first track, and hopefully i'll keep learning new stuff from all the users in here. |
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COMET SHELL
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Dec 15, 2013 10:51
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nice track, really good for your first track, much better than my first ever track and probably better than my latest track too ha ha. i agree with the others about the bass though. nice one |
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