New Goa trance that actually sounds like Goa trance!?
J.D. Jason
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 22:15
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On 2011-08-16 22:40, psychowave wrote:
taste its taste...
Why you need to write a totally new kind of sound?
Ok, if you do something total new, and works for you, perfect...its good make something new...but what its the problem to like and write songs similar, with influence of 90's sounds?
Look at green nuns..pure 90's sounds...awesome music...last year watch him gig at Antaris, Ozora, Boom...here in Brazil also...and WTF!!! Good music its good music...timeless!!!
so, as listener I like good music...I love to listen 2010 filteria or goasia sounds with the same passion to love the 1992 Green Nuns or Man with no name music...
as producer, I get the same feel... get influence from both periods...and I dont care if my music will sound like 90's sounds or like 2010 sounds...cause this dosen't matter...the ppl will like if are good music...and will dislike if its not good!!!
I would like if the ppl start to spend less time over-analyzing each-others...and spend more producing something useful...discussion its good, but I disagree on compare "Old vs. New" its a non sense discussion for me...
I think you misunderstood the point.
Its not about if you have a 2010 sound or not. My point is that a lot of artists would benefit (and be much better) if they found their own sound instead of copying.
If everybody copy then where is the evolution?
Not that much into Goa sound now days BUT for shore I can say that there is some artists who create totally original sound like no one create today. For example Goasia is in TOP list of one of them. Never hear something similar related to any of old or new artists. Pure original sound in every track I heard and I heard a lot from them.
You can like it or not but you can not refute the fact about how much is original their sound. Every real Goa listener and fun would recognize that.
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 22:53
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On 2011-08-17 22:15, J.D. Jason wrote:
Not that much into Goa sound now days BUT for shore I can say that there is some artists who create totally original sound like no one create today. For example Goasia is in TOP list of one of them. Never hear something similar related to any of old or new artists. Pure original sound in every track I heard and I heard a lot from them.
You can like it or not but you can not refute the fact about how much is original their sound. Every real Goa listener and fun would recognize that.
Beat Agency
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Posted : Aug 18, 2011 00:55
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On 2011-08-17 22:15, J.D. Jason wrote:
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On 2011-08-16 22:44, Beat Agency wrote:
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On 2011-08-16 22:40, psychowave wrote:
taste its taste...
Why you need to write a totally new kind of sound?
Ok, if you do something total new, and works for you, perfect...its good make something new...but what its the problem to like and write songs similar, with influence of 90's sounds?
Look at green nuns..pure 90's sounds...awesome music...last year watch him gig at Antaris, Ozora, Boom...here in Brazil also...and WTF!!! Good music its good music...timeless!!!
so, as listener I like good music...I love to listen 2010 filteria or goasia sounds with the same passion to love the 1992 Green Nuns or Man with no name music...
as producer, I get the same feel... get influence from both periods...and I dont care if my music will sound like 90's sounds or like 2010 sounds...cause this dosen't matter...the ppl will like if are good music...and will dislike if its not good!!!
I would like if the ppl start to spend less time over-analyzing each-others...and spend more producing something useful...discussion its good, but I disagree on compare "Old vs. New" its a non sense discussion for me...
I think you misunderstood the point.
Its not about if you have a 2010 sound or not. My point is that a lot of artists would benefit (and be much better) if they found their own sound instead of copying.
If everybody copy then where is the evolution?
Not that much into Goa sound now days BUT for shore I can say that there is some artists who create totally original sound like no one create today. For example Goasia is in TOP list of one of them. Never hear something similar related to any of old or new artists. Pure original sound in every track I heard and I heard a lot from them.
You can like it or not but you can not refute the fact about how much is original their sound. Every real Goa listener and fun would recognize that.
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Posted : Aug 18, 2011 04:42
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I 100% disagree.
...and it's all you can say. and as I notice not just on my post, but on every other you replied. a lot of talking without any argument...
However good luck with enjoying in music!
peace!
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Posted : Aug 21, 2011 18:47
Beat Agency
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Posted : Aug 21, 2011 20:53
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I 100% disagree.
...and it's all you can say. and as I notice not just on my post, but on every other you replied. a lot of talking without any argument...
However good luck with enjoying in music!
peace!
Every other with no argumentation at all? wow Are you sure you polished your glasses or is it because I did not agree with you you make up this far fetched assumption?
I've debated my opinion here (I even got a slap on the head for expressing my opinion) so I guess you need to go back a few pages and see what I wrote instead of assuming I do not have an opinion and according to your terms never have a valid argument. By the way I do enjoy a whole lot of music. Just not much of the neo-goa. I guess you disagree with my taste. Peace with that www.beatagency.dk
willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 22, 2011 00:04
I like a couple pieces of a couple tracks, but I'd never play them out...goasia IMO is a prime example of taking astral projection style super melodic/epic goa and overproducing the fuck out of it. Extremely cheesy to my ears.
I like a lot of neo goa stuff too, but saying that they use sounds that no one else has ever used before is just a straight up lie.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 22, 2011 19:46
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I never thought any of them would claim that they use "sounds that no one else has ever used before ".
It's still Goa, just cleaner produced and (in some cases) much more multilayered. I personally like both branches of it, although I definitely prefer subtlety and multilayered complexity to nitzhonotish focused energy. I like “Versus”, but I like – you guessed it – “Daze of Our Lives” much more.
I am a bit embarrassed to admit that I have no idea what classics those two branches of Neo-Goa are trying to follow. Energetic ones, like “Versus”, may be close to Man With No Name (??). What about “diffuse” ones, like “Daze of Our Lives”?
I’ve heard many more Neo-Goa tracks than the original Goa . Am I sick, doctor?
P.S. Regardless of all this - Artha rulez
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Posted : Aug 22, 2011 22:24
"sounds that no one else has ever used before"...
thats impossible...if you hit your table with your head I can show you something similar in some track...
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Posted : Aug 23, 2011 00:30
Daze of Our Lives alongside with Arcana, Influencing Dreams, Goapocalipsis and 9th are the showcases of this genre and thoose are the albums that every lover of psychedelic trance and especially lover of more melodic side of things should get.
Finding something from young and perspective artists who are starting to define their way and creativity in the same sentence with thoose guys is just a honor and recognition for our work and effort, thanks for that mr. Maine Coon, I'm sure that you will find even more interesting stuff in your discovering process and don't worry, you don't need a doctor, no matter that the past of music that we all love brought some of the greatests classics, it's still possible to find some nice gems nowdays aswell, all you need is time and a good will http://www.neogoa.net
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Posted : Aug 25, 2011 04:12
I very much agree with beat agency. 90% of 'neo-goa' is like a hollow sugar shell...
where's the organic cream filling - that flows from the teats of Goddess ?!
a word that i closely associate with the old goa sound is 'mystical', & that is part of what is missing, along with -subtlety-.
a subtle, elegant, mystical sound cannot be achieved with a formulaic approach, or a heavy hand.
i also agree with others that aerosis/jagno gaia is one of the best new goa acts i've heard - will finally see him live @ karmaclysm 8/27 yes it's still briskly paced with a solid melodic component, but it has that old-fashioned wholesome psychedelic juiciness designed to trigger a flood of endogenous neurotransmitters from the pineal gland !
of course there are other quality new goa artists, but there is plenty of room for innovation...
is everybody taking solid doses of tryptamines in nature, in a magickal, intentional context ? this can't be over-emphasized.
more music for integrated ecodelic luminous rainbow warrior holographic dmt buddhas pleeeeze
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Posted : Aug 25, 2011 07:15
Really got into E-Mantra's album that was released on Suntrip. Found it easier to cruise to than a lot of the others, but it was highly produced like the others also.
for the raw sound this one track by Yesod had something about it, unfortunately no releases from this artist since.
Am guessing if you're looking for a raw Goa sound today you'll probably have to look for live performers doing a hardware-instrument combo, once this stuff goes into studio chances are it's going to get microwaved.
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Posted : Aug 26, 2011 17:32
Can someone get me a bit up to speed on things here? I don't really follow the psy-scene that much, but I'm aware a lot of people don't like new 'psytrance' and prefer goa trance and wish it was still being made...
...I understand that much but what is it people don't like about neo-goa? I'm not defending it or anything, I'm being completely subjective here so I can get a good idea of the situation. Thanks. If I start producing psy in the future it'd be cool to get the opinions of those on ground level.
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Posted : Aug 26, 2011 17:48
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thanks bro, beat agency were saying he sound similar to posford and yeah now i udnerstand why ,it sound very influenced from early hallucinogen stuff.
from the few tunes i heard of recent goa it s the first artist that i really like as much as the good oldschool stuff, the flow, the vibes.. it s there to blast the floor, really nice , in live it must be great just by judging from this track
He has been influenced (just like his music) with old Postford stuff. Thats a fact, you don't need Beat Agency to know that. No matter his inspiration and similar sounding to old Postford stuff, many people find Artha very psychedelic, interesting and creative and thats a FACT too. It's perfect example how to drowe some inspiration from good old Goa vibes and present it nowdays with a help of technology and interwebz. Some will call this copy-paste, but I call it intelligent psychedelic uptempo trance with guts and outstanding feeling for melody.
Still would like to see your favs from this genre (don't hesitate to post more youtube links).
now i downlaoded a few more of his tunes and i find only this one was really influenced by posford , when i heard it i wondered if posford have a son ,that show is talent cause to copy cat posford you really neeed some.
from the neo goa stuff i know only these few tunes from artha and i really enjoyed these ,i m curious to hear more of his music.
other stuff i have heard in this thread was good too but i don t really like as much.. sometimes it feel like some producers need more experience to get to the level of the goa stuff like xdream total eclipse posford and many more, it dont mean they make unintresting music far from that, but they use similar synth patchs and melodie so it always remind me some old tunes ,it make the comparasion to pioneers obvious
Are you sure you polished your glasses or is it because I did not agree with you you make up this far fetched assumption?
