New Goa trance that actually sounds like Goa trance!?

Beat Agency wrote:
But good music is good music and bad music is bad music. Simple as that really.

On 2011-08-11 09:46, Colin OOOD wrote:
<shrugs> It's true, I'm a melodic writer with my musical roots in the 1980s, and I feel dance music is at its best when it makes one smile, so it's understandable if some people think that occasionally results in a bit of cheese That's never the aim, though. And I wasn't defending any track in particular, rather this thread as a whole where people can make suggestions of neo-goa tracks which they find something new in, without one person constantly telling people they're wrong to hold the opinions they do. Check out Page 2.
But of course this is just my perception and might well not correspond to how others view this thread. And maybe - like Kristian - I myself should also be expressing myself in terms that make it clear that if your taste differs from mine - the great expert - you're wrong. It's summed up for me like this:

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Beat Agency wrote: But good music is good music and bad music is bad music. Simple as that really.

I would fundamentally disagree. There is no 'good' or 'bad' in matters of music, there is only music you like, or do not like. And if you don't like it, you really don't have to keep on telling us.

On 2011-08-11 10:43, Beat Agency wrote:
What did you participate with in this debate except for a grumpy "Teacher" attitude?

On 2011-08-11 09:46, Colin OOOD wrote:
<shrugs> It's true, I'm a melodic writer with my musical roots in the 1980s, and I feel dance music is at its best when it makes one smile, so it's understandable if some people think that occasionally results in a bit of cheese

On 2011-08-11 12:27, Colin OOOD wrote:

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On 2011-08-11 10:43, Beat Agency wrote: What did you participate with in this debate except for a grumpy "Teacher" attitude?

I posted on this thread before you did, to make a suggestion to the OP of an artist he might like to check out but you seem to ignore this FACT

"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to."
— Jim Jarmusch

On 2011-08-12 04:30, Basilisk wrote:
It seems there is always some confusion in these discussions of new school Goa trance. Are we examining whether the music is good, original, or both? Are these qualities not highly subjective? Even originality: just how original does the music need to be? Is there room for music that is very good but not at all original?

In my view, few cultural goods are truly original. Most are highly derivative, but this does not mean they are without value.

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"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to." — Jim Jarmusch

On 2011-08-12 11:30, Beat Agency wrote:

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On 2011-08-12 04:30, Basilisk wrote: It seems there is always some confusion in these discussions of new school Goa trance. Are we examining whether the music is good, original, or both? Are these qualities not highly subjective? Even originality: just how original does the music need to be? Is there room for music that is very good but not at all original? In my view, few cultural goods are truly original. Most are highly derivative, but this does not mean they are without value. Quote: "Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to." — Jim Jarmusch

IMO the debate is if so called new Goa should look back or look forward.

On 2011-08-12 14:36, Colin OOOD wrote:
Change is inevitable