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thinkingsound
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Posted : Jun 26, 2009 23:23
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On 2009-06-26 16:06, ocelot wrote:
imagine if you met someone 4 meters tall with a tiny head 4cm wide! strange eh?
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I would find that very psychedelic instead of strange 
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ocelot
ocelot
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Posted : Jun 27, 2009 03:59
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ok so im a bigot against fast trance.
maybe i could learn to be more tolerant if it weren't such a frikking trend...
the pimply testosterone thing was not why i got into this thing and i resent the whole trance movement who resisted the commercial wave being sucked into the beavis-n-butthead wave...
we went dark when the commercial thing went plastic-happy-fake
we go joyous when the dark-plastic-cynical-paranoid-pose is the norm...
either way its about getting out of the trend and into the heart of the matter.
humans, emotions, thoughts, spirit, matter, sound... whatever - hope you know what i mean.
whoops
im starting to confuse things.... heheheh
fast trance with dark trance...
maybe im just tired of seeing cynical angry tough looking people in very fashionable clothes being cool and acting... just acting... not being REAL
and maybe i associate it too much with the music that may have been playing while they stood there...
or maybe they were standing there cynical because they thought the same thing "cant dance to this its too fast" and therefore looked tough and angry.
ok i better research a bit better before i rant more....
but i like clear clean intelligent sounds and im very very sorry to have made any noisy music over the years
i started to experience my first waves of tinnitus this week...
take it easy on the volume guys. thanks
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lessless.sb
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Posted : Jun 28, 2009 19:17
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jun 28, 2009 22:26
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Its good to see someone has been keeping up..
"If You Always Think What You've Always Thought, You Will Always Feel What You've Always Felt" |
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lessless.sb
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Posted : Jun 28, 2009 23:09
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some dance to remeber - some dance to forget...  |
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Jul 1, 2009 16:20
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On 2009-06-28 23:09, lessless.sb wrote:
some dance to remeber - some dance to forget...
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Daydreaming activates the same parts of the brain that are used in solving complex quandaries..
"If You Always Think What You've Always Thought, You Will Always Feel What You've Always Felt" |
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : Jul 3, 2009 12:51
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On 2009-06-27 03:59, ocelot wrote:
im very very sorry to have made any noisy music over the years
take it easy on the volume guys. thanks
don't hurt your friends ears.
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no,i dont think you have to be sorry for making any kind of music. you may now realized that you want to change your speed and emotion but you really don t have to care if you bothered a few ears.. you said what you wanted to say and now, move on. why be sorry?
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lessless.sb
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Posted : Jul 3, 2009 13:52
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dude, will you ever publish track better than Xcilog Frog Grog was ?  |
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Xolvexs
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Posted : Jul 5, 2009 19:02
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On 2009-06-22 23:37, Axis Mundi wrote:
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On 2009-06-22 09:01, BrainLizzard wrote:
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On 2009-06-21 14:21, Xolvexs wrote:
on average the life span of the genre from my estimate is 4 years at tops
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This estimated time in achievement was reached many years ago.
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lol, so true.
I'm wondering what Xolvexs is comparing to.
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The FIFA World Cup every 4 years
The Olympics every 4 years
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some shoes have been used in 2 consecutive olympics and world cup...then they rework them
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MsoB
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Posted : Jul 5, 2009 21:50
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On 2009-06-27 03:59, ocelot wrote:
ok so im a bigot against fast trance.
maybe i could learn to be more tolerant if it weren't such a frikking trend...
the pimply testosterone thing was not why i got into this thing and i resent the whole trance movement who resisted the commercial wave being sucked into the beavis-n-butthead wave...
we went dark when the commercial thing went plastic-happy-fake
we go joyous when the dark-plastic-cynical-paranoid-pose is the norm...
either way its about getting out of the trend and into the heart of the matter.
humans, emotions, thoughts, spirit, matter, sound... whatever - hope you know what i mean.
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+1
I can't help but feel that a lot of the movement towards higher and higher tempos and negative, scary, ugly samples and sounds has been just a reaction to the mainstream cheese-fest... and as such, is really just as much a product of following trends (but in the opposite direction.) I'm not saying that this is the case with all darker artists, and I don't have a problem with dark music - I grew up listening to industrial, hardcore punk, and break-core (Venetian Snares is still one of my favorite musicians of all time.) But it really seems like a lot of modern psytrance is trying so hard to scare away the candy ravers, it has completely lost it's identity.
I guess this sort of thing happens in all "intelligent" genres of music, and I really find it annoying... IMHO, as far as creativity and artistic merit go, being Anti-Pop is really just the same as being Pop...
Psytrance DJ sets-->
http://earthmensound.com
(original tunes coming soon)
Original dubstep tunes -->
http://omegadubstep.com
http://myspace.com/psydubstep |
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Stregone
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Posted : Jul 5, 2009 23:17
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On 2009-06-27 03:59, ocelot wrote:
ok so im a bigot against fast trance.
maybe i could learn to be more tolerant if it weren't such a frikking trend...
the pimply testosterone thing was not why i got into this thing and i resent the whole trance movement who resisted the commercial wave being sucked into the beavis-n-butthead wave...
we went dark when the commercial thing went plastic-happy-fake
we go joyous when the dark-plastic-cynical-paranoid-pose is the norm...
either way its about getting out of the trend and into the heart of the matter.
humans, emotions, thoughts, spirit, matter, sound... whatever - hope you know what i mean.
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+1
I can't help but feel that a lot of the movement towards higher and higher tempos and negative, scary, ugly samples and sounds has been just a reaction to the mainstream cheese-fest... and as such, is really just as much a product of following trends (but in the opposite direction.) I'm not saying that this is the case with all darker artists, and I don't have a problem with dark music - I grew up listening to industrial, hardcore punk, and break-core (Venetian Snares is still one of my favorite musicians of all time.) But it really seems like a lot of modern psytrance is trying so hard to scare away the candy ravers, it has completely lost it's identity.
I guess this sort of thing happens in all "intelligent" genres of music, and I really find it annoying... IMHO, as far as creativity and artistic merit go, being Anti-Pop is really just the same as being Pop...
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+ 1 !!
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 6, 2009 13:15
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What is(was) its identity?
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MsoB
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Posted : Jul 6, 2009 21:06
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@ Axis Mundi:
I don't feel like any individual (myself included) can or should define what psytrance's identity was/is/should be... I think one of the reasons that I love it is because it is so multi-faceted and diverse in what it is/can be. But I don't like when the scene (or at least a part of it) starts to derive it's identity from being "anti-" something, rather than simply being the expression of the creativity/vision/effort/community/etc. of the producers, DJs, organizers, dancers, etc.
I understand that all cultures are inevitably going to develop in relation to what they are surrounded by, and lots of really great art has been inspired by opposition to things that the artist felt were harmful or evil - John Lennon's "Imagine", for example. But one of the big reasons psychedelic music is so special to me is because it tends to focus more on the pure creativity of the artists - sorta like the difference between sci-fi and mainstream fiction. For me, the best psychedelic music strives to create a new and unique experience for the listener, in much the same way my favorite sci-fi writers create entirely new universes in which to tell their stories.
I just don't like it when I go to a psy event wanting the amazing creative journey that I get from my favorite psy/goa artists, and instead just get an "anti-rave".
...but I guess I should heed my own words, cuz I'm sorta being "anti-anti" at this point 
Psytrance DJ sets-->
http://earthmensound.com
(original tunes coming soon)
Original dubstep tunes -->
http://omegadubstep.com
http://myspace.com/psydubstep |
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 8, 2009 23:43
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| I understand that all cultures are inevitably going to develop in relation to what they are surrounded by, and lots of really great art has been inspired by opposition to things that the artist felt were harmful or evil - John Lennon's "Imagine", for example. But one of the big reasons psychedelic music is so special to me is because it tends to focus more on the pure creativity of the artists - sorta like the difference between sci-fi and mainstream fiction. For me, the best psychedelic music strives to create a new and unique experience for the listener, in much the same way my favorite sci-fi writers create entirely new universes in which to tell their stories. |
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That was really well said. Props!
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MsoB
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Posted : Jul 10, 2009 05:15
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Thanks! |
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