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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 18:40
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On 2007-02-17 02:57, gaspard wrote:
the reason these words dont surprise me come more from your previous posts in this forum, on agreeing with US judges about raped women deserving to be raped due to their dress sense, to name but one.
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I didnt knew that saying that women who dress to sexy on the road CAN CAUSE rape easier on themself is the same like saying that women who dress to sexy on the road DESERVE to get raped.Nice try to change the meaning of my words and manipulate the conversation mate but you got to try much harder than that.That US Judge by the way said that YES the rapist has to be convicted for his action BUT his sentence should be less than that of the usual rapists punishment because that lady had the bright idea of walking half naked down the street moving her great ass and boobs up and down like she was a model on a catwalk or something,sooner or later someone would jump on her the way she walked around and this is what happened in the end.In a few words the womans attitude was not the most appropriate one and although the rapist is guilty she is also responsible for causing this to herself by walking half naked down the road like a bitch.You either like this way of thinking or you dont,for me this is good way of thinking for you its not.But ok for you US Judges dont have a clue of what they are talking about do they?If it was a French Judge then this would me more serious thinking right?
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On 2007-02-17 02:57, gaspard wrote:
and as for your P.S., bringing politics into this discussion, sorry but i wont answer as this is obviously comes from a pathetic intention to get this thread blocked or deleted, so you ll just have to carry on supposing what my views are on this topic.
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You got me mate,what i really wanted was to bring politics into this discussion and having it locked or deleted so that i would make you look like an idiot,man you are a fucking genious,you really got me on this one.Did you studied politics and sociology or psychology or something?I mean you are so smart man.When i grow up i really want to be as smart as you are.....
Please next time you talk about me or my words try to use your brain a little and stop trying manipulating this conversation allright?You are not the only smart ass in this forum you know,other people have been to college too.
ADIGROOVY the questions i made reflect my personal believes so i dont have to speak more about me i guess.Let me give you an example,while i was studying in New York University (NYU) in New York City i was sitting next to a great Chinese girl and my best friend was a big fat black guy who seemed like he popped up from a gangster rap movie or something,amazing and funny guy i tell you.Although i was hanging with him all day and although i had and still have many different colour friends in my life i got to admit that i looked him differently than people of my own colour and nationality,pay attention i looked him differently not negatively,i dont know if that makes me a racist or not.To be honest though if my daughter came up with a black guy as her future husband i got to admit that i would feel really strange and maybe even bad about it,the why is a big discussion that cant be discussed in public i guess,does that make me a racist?If yes then i guess i am a racist.
PSYCOSMO mate i am not in this place to improve my public image,i dont care to look good,i just care to look like i really am.I am not going to pretend to be a saint mate in order for people to like me or sell some more cds from my label or that more people will come to my parties,i am just saying what i believe and i am ready to face all the consequences good or bad,i am just being myself and i am not willing to change that.I am just being true and trust me if i wanted to pretent to be a saint and beloved person i knew the way how to make it,some "killer music" comments on every cd release out there,"killer party" on every event announced and trying to avoid every controversial discussion like this one here or just popping up to say the same things everyone says like "we are all one,no room for racism,plur and respect all around the world,protect the nature,stop the war,money means nothing" and bla bla bla.Sorry but instead of becoming a clown i prefer noone to like me in this forum by just being my true self.
GANIJENAJVECI you are right by the way friend,i just thought of this topic as something more general.
P.S ADIGROOVY i never said that all Germans are Nazis or all Middle East people are Terrorist,saying that the majority of English people dont like the Germans and saying that English people dont like the Germans because all Germans are Nazis is something tottally different dont you think?I am talking about prejudices and racism here    Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!! |
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88!
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 18:59
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misha overlap lol
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Syntax442
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 19:00
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psytrance - crap
psyculture - shit
aeroboard - nothing u have to worry about[cunt "community"] |
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Leta
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 19:17
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And before you claim that you are not a racist of any kind sit for a moment and think how would you react (if you are a white person) if your daughter would present you a black guy as her future husband or the opposite meaning how would you react (if you are a black guy) if your daughter presented you a white guy for her future husband.
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i agree, but this is offtopic.
Sorry for one more Russian here, But I am not white & I have my own opinion. I've read all the posts with a great interest, & I hope that I may clarify smth!
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my cousin married to ethiopian in israel....and we all enjoyed together
so your post is pointless
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not agree, know why?
If you were not a bit rassist - you would not understand the topic, you would not understand detox.
Your post looks more like that you are trying to get rid of rassism. That's great!
But I'd rather believe you if you'd said something like:
My sister's husband is black, my nephews will be black, my kids will have black brothers, and that's great!
My girlfriend in Brasil is proud, that her grandad was black, she always says it, but she never says that he was
a member or parliament! THAT IS A NON-RASSIST PERSON.
to PSYCOSMO
BUT you still see the difference between people with all colours of skin! That's what I mean! Read your post once more!
I don't know Detox, but your reaction (all of you) to his posts makes me believe, that you are rassists! And you dont like
that group of people, who tries to show you that you really are! YOU JUST HAVE A SENCE that you should fight with it. And you do.
He doesnt. He is bad. He just thinks another way, it's not a reason for the heartred, isn't it?
Don't be angry at me, I am from Russia, but I have an asian type of face, as my mother is from Tuwa (near Mongolia). And,
Here in Russia I am loved, I have really a lot of friends, & my appearence (very beautiful & exotic here) helps me in setting new contacts - every I need. But I don't need contacts with fashists!
Most of dark psy people (NOT MUSICIANS) Are really ugly here. I hate when they come to party with svastica flags. That's why
I prefere parties in other countries. It's a problem here. But this is a problem of narrow-minded people, there are a lot of them everywhere! In Russia there are many of them, as there are many people in Russia.
And, It's a pity, but they've found their refuge on dark psy party. This is a problem of too much drugs, too young people & too powerful mafia. IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM OF MUSIC, AS IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM THAT I AM TOO BEAUTIFUL & IT IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM THAT 1/3 OF POPULATION OF PLANET EARTH ARE WHITE PEOPLE!
TO ADMINS: Syntax442 & 88 are better to be banned, they write improper things.
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Cyber Punk
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 19:48
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I really don't get what this is all about ? 
Some assholes have written smth on unmoderated board... and now please: "neonazism in russian scene" 
Are You serious ?
May be one day we will release our "Top100 deleted posts" ... 
Beleive me, will be fun reading it.
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Leta
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 19:54
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On 2007-02-18 19:48, Cyber Punk wrote:
I really don't get what this is all about ?
Some assholes have written smth on unmoderated board... and now please: "neonazism in russian scene"
Are You serious ?
May be one day we will release our "Top100 deleted posts" ...
Beleive me, will be fun reading it.
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Im sorry, but IT IS moderated. I know this board, I was member of it some years ago. It has changed since than. But it is true, that it's visitors, as the most or party visitors in Moskow, are very young!
This problem really exists. It is not to be hidden. It must be solved! But... how? |
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Cyber Punk
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:02
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On 2007-02-18 17:48, Psypepper wrote:
I wish to notice that section "freespeech" a forum aeroboard is experimental and has no moderators)
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gaspard
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:14
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On:57, gaspard wrote:
the reason these words dont surprise me come more from your previous posts in this forum, on agreeing with US judges about raped women deserving to be raped due to their dress sense, to name but one.
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I didnt knew that saying that women who dress to sexy on the road CAN CAUSE rape easier on themself is the same like saying that women who dress to sexy on the road DESERVE to get raped.Nice try to change the meaning of my words and manipulate the conversation mate but you got to try much harder than that.That US Judge by the way said that YES the rapist has to be convicted for his action BUT his sentence should be less than that of the usual rapists punishment because that lady had the bright idea of walking half naked down the street moving her great ass and boobs up and down like she was a model on a catwalk or something,sooner or later someone would jump on her the way she walked around and this is what happened in the end.In a few words the womans attitude was not the most appropriate one and although the rapist is guilty she is also responsible for causing this to herself by walking half naked down the road like a bitch.You either like this way of thinking or you dont,for me this is good way of thinking for you its not.But ok for you US Judges dont have a clue of what they are talking about do they?If it was a French Judge then this would me more serious thinking right?
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On:57, gaspard wrote:
and as for your P.S., bringing politics into this discussion, sorry but i wont answer as this is obviously comes from a pathetic intention to get this thread blocked or deleted, so you ll just have to carry on supposing what my views are on this topic.
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You got me mate,what i really wanted was to bring politics into this discussion and having it locked or deleted so that i would make you look like an idiot,man you are a fucking genious,you really got me on this one.Did you studied politics and sociology or psychology or something?I mean you are so smart man.When i grow up i really want to be as smart as you are.....
Please next time you talk about me or my words try to use your brain a little and stop trying manipulating this conversation allright?You are not the only smart ass in this forum you know,other people have been to college too.
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1 : who ever said i d been to college ? i hadnt realised that i had to be a degree holder to answer back and dispute the ideas of the great detox…. I ll bear that in mind in the future. I mean really, who the fuck do you think you are ?? you think only someone with a degree can be on your level and answer you ? jesus man , you might have a big brain but you sure have a narrow mind !!
2 : « I didnt knew that saying that women who dress to sexy on the road CAN CAUSE rape easier on themself is the same like saying that women who dress to sexy on the road DESERVE to get raped »
in words is different but in essence is the same. You re saying that the rapist is less guilty because of the way a woman is dressed. You re excusing a dispicable act. No means no, whatever the clothes a woman is wearing.
3 : the funniest point here, as it clearly shows that you didnt understand a word i was saying in my post. You think that i dont agree with these judges because they are american ??? hello ?!?!?! and i d agree if they were french ?? what does this mean ? why would that make a difference to me ? ( i am not french if thats what you re thinking !) its the idea i find sick not the nationality of the person brewing it up. You really are so full of your own prejudices that you are clearly unable to understand that i do not share these… degree or not !
4 : by the way i m english and i can tell you here and now that the majority of us dont hate the german. stop spreading bollocks!!
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Cyber Punk
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:18
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uuuu, it is getting hot in here...
guys, please chill a little.
And I think you are taking Mike's words too close...
IMHO he ment smth else.
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Misha(Overlap)
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:23
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delete this topic please
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Psypepper
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:28
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On 2007-02-18 17:48, Psypepper wrote:
I wish to notice that section "freespeech" a forum aeroboard is experimental and has no moderators)
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unmoderated wished to tell, if you about it) |
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gaspard
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:30
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On:18, Cyber Punk wrote:
uuuu, it is getting hot in here...
guys, please chill a little.
And I think you are taking Mike's words too close...
IMHO he ment smth else.
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no worries. detox and i have fundamentally different ideas on a serious topic.this can make it hard not to involve oneself in a personal way, especially when a topic touches us deeply. sparks can fly but i bear no ill feeling about anyone. this is a forum and it is not always easy to understand or be understood, but this stays a debate, heated or not.
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Leta
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:36
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On 2007-02-18 17:48, Psypepper wrote:
I wish to notice that section "freespeech" a forum aeroboard is experimental and has no moderators)
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Sorry, yes. It is realy not moderated! It's a new forum, I've just read it. There are 13 pages of swearing there. This forum opens also a lot of other realities. I don't like & don't accept it. But it can exist. The problem is real, but freespeech forum is not a serious argument, really.
I am so sorry that it got here. People, who are sitting there... i can't underastand whether they are angry or immoral. They are like football fans after a match.
Any way, i (and probably only I) think, that this is a problem, but it can now be solved easily: by just not crossing it.
There are many really difficult problems in Russia & all over the world. And this, what happens, is it's waste.
The government here is soon to be changed, & one (not so possible, but...) party supports nationalism in the impendent finance crisis of the World. (but this is an another story) |
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:41
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On 2007-02-18 18:40, DETOX wrote:
PSYCOSMO mate i am not in this place to improve my public image,i dont care to look good,i just care to look like i really am.I am not going to pretend to be a saint mate in order for people to like me or sell some more cds from my label or that more people will come to my parties,i am just saying what i believe and i am ready to face all the consequences good or bad,i am just being myself and i am not willing to change that.I am just being true and trust me if i wanted to pretent to be a saint and beloved person i knew the way how to make it,some "killer music" comments on every cd release out there,"killer party" on every event announced and trying to avoid every controversial discussion like this one here or just popping up to say the same things everyone says like "we are all one,no room for racism,plur and respect all around the world,protect the nature,stop the war,money means nothing" and bla bla bla.Sorry but instead of becoming a clown i prefer noone to like me in this forum by just being my true self.
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Well OK, just dont get all upset when it turns out that people dont like your true self because of all the narrow-minded, backwards ideas that apparantly comprise "your true self"
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On 2007-02-18 19:17, Leta wrote:
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BUT you still see the difference between people with all colours of skin! That's what I mean! Read your post once more!
I don't know Detox, but your reaction (all of you) to his posts makes me believe, that you are rassists! And you dont like
that group of people, who tries to show you that you really are! YOU JUST HAVE A SENCE that you should fight with it. And you do.
He doesnt. He is bad. He just thinks another way, it's not a reason for the heartred, isn't it?
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You make no sense Leta.
Racism=Prejudice against someone on the basis of their skin color.
Sure I have eyes and am therefore capable of observing that some people's skin is a different color than other peoples skin. This makes me a "rassist"?
How does the fact that I and others are upset by Detox's acceptance of racism show us to be racist?
PS Your spelling sucks!
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On 2007-02-17 10:15, TrippyJohnny wrote:
1. How many White Americans on this Board would welcome a Black Person into their family?
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I really doubt that many Americans ON THIS BOARD would have a problem.
Where did you get this idea about American psy-trancers?
How many American psy-trancers have you actually met?
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Psypepper
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Posted : Feb 18, 2007 20:47
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Is better discuss reference in index page of aeroboard calling to study the kabbala)))) |
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