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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 21:40
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Hey Moki and Axis you really should keep your private discussions private! your just making a fool out of your selfs both of you... i dont know who started it but you should really stop... But im sure others are enjoying it.
cheers!
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 21:44
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You're probably right, but hey, I'm an entertainer, so what can I say?
I already said I'd stop. But she wanted to continue talking about it even when asked politely by others, so hey.
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Aluxe
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 22:36
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This is just a head game, an intellect fight where the truth is not even important any more and it becomes all about defending each other and proving the other wrong. One person will throw one thing and then the other will research for a “fact” just to prove the other wrong. And some people think somebody is winning or loosing here? LOL.
Like losen up people, you are stuck in the head when the game should be lead by good vibes, by sharing perspectives with the heart as the guide and not the head who should only be the hearts servant. Not by boring analytical fact checking to prove yourself right, but by instead trying to feel the truth that will bring a nice energy exchange.
In the words of Bob Dylan:
"I ain't lookin' to compete with you,
Simplify you, classify you,
Deny, defy or crucify you.
No, and I ain't lookin' to fight with you,
Drag you down or drain you down.
I ain't lookin' to block you up
Shock or knock or lock you up,
Analyze you, categorize you,
Finalize you or advertise you.
I don't want to straight-face you,
Race or chase you, track or trace you,
Or disgrace you or displace you,
Or define you or confine you.
I don't want to meet your kin,
Make you spin or do you in,
Or select you or dissect you,
Or inspect you or reject you.
I don't want to fake you out,
Take or shake or forsake you out,
I ain't lookin' for you to feel like me,
See like me or be like me.
All I really want to do
Is, be friends with you."
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Trumpets and violins I can-uh, hear in the distance I think they're callin' our name
Maybe now you can't hear them,
but you will, ha-ha,
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last.
When all are one and one is all
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 22:41
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 23:03
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On 2009-09-26 22:36, Aluxe wrote:
Like losen up people, you are stuck in the head when the game should be lead by good vibes, by sharing perspectives with the heart as the guide and not the head who should only be the hearts servant. Not by boring analytical fact checking to prove yourself right, but by instead trying to feel the truth that will bring a nice energy exchange.
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So true! but i guess it takes some darkness to find it out also... and a straight head and heart to keep following the right road
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 03:16
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Good points, guys! It's a useless, cyclical, go-nowhere argument anyway. There are, after all, more important things to worry about. It's a good time to quit it for me.
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moki
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 09:59
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wrong. i hate intellectual fights where the truth is not important. demagoguery. and i have no time for them. the truth is very important. unfortunately axis mundi is not even capable of having a debate on facts without pushing his brain washed perspective of superior western american being . especially the last cases about the jews in odessa and the jews in the 20th century, which RUSSIA DID SAVE ( even if you are fucked off enough to say it is idiocy to state the last) - this was a prove of high incapability to have a political conversation. what if politician were calling theirselves idiots every time they have to argument on an idea. and your anti arguments are making to a loser anyway. we were talking about another century, what the fuck, tell me that you are not so stupid.
this is exactly what this loser is doing. and axis mundi, tell me how many time do you need to tell you to fuck off? i have never sended you compliments, licking your boots, or whatever other shit your absolutely sick head is thinking. YOU FUCKING GOT IT??????? yes i was doing tthis but to someone else. and it is gone too. this what i did to you, was just good manners and politeness.
i dont give a shit about doing compliments to you, you are the last thing to interest me, so yes it is a very good point to stop writing your absolute bullshit.
stop explaining in public , i just fucking spent an hour or two with you, sent you an answer or two. but you are the last thing to interest me, only i want you to fucking stop talk to me isratrance.
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moki
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 10:31
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i read your post and i cant believe there can be such a loser. post me this fucking message where i am licking your boots. you are the biggest lier and loser in isratrance. really, never seen such a fucked off figure. you are the one to come uninvited even after me telling ten time that i have no time because i fly. and i have all your messages too. you get it? there is only one person who can write this about me sending messages about love and dreams, and this is not you.
i am asking for forgiveness - man you are really the most pathetic figure in isratrance. these last three pages were very hard to even continue. your facts are ridiculous, your answers also, and the way you talk about russia is more than brain washed and supid and totally disrespectful. besides, your way to argument if you are told why i state that russia saved someone - odessa is wrong because of siberia, what the fuck, this is like to state that the sky cannot be blue because the see is blue. second argument about the centuries and the laws - also fucking stupid to say. we are talking exactly about this century.
, you are pathetic really.
whatever, just go to hell. there is only one person who can state that i was insane about him in my whole life actually. and this is not you.
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Aluxe
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 11:33
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Hey Moki don't let this whole thing get so serious because it really isn't. I think there are a lot of misunderstandings between you guys and I am sure that you both have valid perspectives and if you can't agree then just let it be.
In the end who cares, you know who you are and what you stand for and nobody can take your good qualities away from you, so don't feel like you have to prove anything to anybody here.
The thing is the more you try and take it on the other the further you guys get tangled in a blind discussion where you BOTH end up saying nasty things to each other. And you can not close things by saying something nasty because the other person is going to also throw something back and then you again and so on. You guys have to learn to express your ideas without making it into battle because nobody ever wins there and you are only left with bad energy in the end. Its draining and takes you away from the things you want to stand for that give you good energy.
Its like Buddha said with these words:
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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moki
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 12:31
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thanks for polite post but i would really ask you all to pay attention to the fact that i did not call this absolute loser a loser or an idiot , even after he did it for my statement that RUSSIA SAVED SOMEONE and i worte three more pages without offending him, with the hope that the fucking loser realizes that it is time to stop.
HOW CAN YOU TELL ME THAT IT IS IDIOCY TO SAY THAT RUSSIA SAVED SOMEONE???????????????????????
READ YOUR FUCKING WIKIPEDIA BEFORE CALLING OTHERS IDIOTS
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| Due to Stalinist emphasis on its urban population, interwar migration inadvertently rescued countless Soviet Jews; Nazi Germany penetrated the entire former Jewish Pale—but were kilometers short of Leningrad and Moscow. The great wave of deportations from the areas annexed by Soviet Union according to the Nazi-Soviet pact, often seen by victims as genocide, paradoxically also saved lives of a few hundred thousand Jewish deportees. However horrible their conditions, the fate of Jews in Nazi Germany was much worse. The migration of many Jews deeper East from the part of the Jewish Pale that would become occupied by Germany saved at least forty percent of this area's Jewish population |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Russia
and i am not the one to offend, i do it after i was really pissed off with the fucking lies. there is only person who could say that i was sending him love uninvited.
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