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eliran17
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Posted : May 23, 2004 02:36
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well it gonna write down what i ment to ask you but i so confuesed write now so any piece of feedback information or suuport you find suite for this wiil be welcome...
i'm 17 now and i'ts something like 7 years that i'm into music so preety much from young age and i, like many, work on softwars creating music and stuff
i always did what i love in MY music realy geeeting my style and sounds but never finshed what i've had start, but thats not the issue here
i truly think i;ve capture my uniqe sounds and style but as i said before never finished what i've startd and i'm thinking that, as time passes, its THE problem.
i want to produce but i cant something in my way of thinking says to me "You Can't! give it a break" so i getting more and more confuesed and despret.
i'm not realy good at english so this explnation can be sucks and not pass completly the problem here.
so i gave you some very basic background do devolep it into something worest.
i'm too young to learn sound as a profession and i realy need some guide here.
i will love to read any word you'll post here that could help me clear this mess going in my brain!!!
sorry for the chessy text
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Mitra
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Posted : May 23, 2004 12:06
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ey man
im also ur age i used to have this problem time ago... and yes its kind of frustrating but u have to notice that maybe u are not following a good line or u are getting stopped by something u are not liking... what i started to do is do more and more unfinished tracks heheh till i finished one (believe me it was like 8 non finished) however my first FINISHED TRACK took me a month... and now i can finish maybe in 2 days one... is something like getting into...
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eliran17
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Posted : May 23, 2004 13:29
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thanks i'll give it a try
please keep posting
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eliran17
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Posted : May 23, 2004 15:55
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well it did cross my mind i know i'm still young but i'ts like i know what to do but i need some guide maybe in mastering and comression.
i think i do need some aide in this one or a partner but i;m too short in resources
i live in haifa,israel
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motorik
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Posted : May 23, 2004 16:22
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Hey there young fellow!!!
First of all it happens to all artist...from time to time you will get your brain-lock (hehehe) no inspiration no idea...
At those moments you just need to take a break and come back after doing something else eith new ideas.
Das fung said it right ...it would be cool to have someone to help you musically more mature than you but you can also try to get together with someone at your skill only to help you break the inspiration block.
I didn't hear your music but if you are happy with it and with it's sound maybe you only need another guy to make music with together.
I don't know if two or three minds are better than one , it's just different but Many trance artists work in duo or trio because three or two mind have more ideas for sure.
you just have to find the right guy who is more or less at your musical skill (more is better for you) and have the same style in mind.
Try to do it.
Salute
motorik
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Memory Loss
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Posted : May 23, 2004 17:00
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Yeah Man You Just Need To Belive In Yourself!!.
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eliran17
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Posted : May 23, 2004 17:33
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its great to see your replys here all of you
its realy emotinal lifiting to read your postes so post post post 
i see most of you propose to aide by a mature one and i think there is something in whats your sayinn coz i'm realy not that good in mastering and compressing and i think it s kind of scary me deal with it and in some way block my creation
any suggestions on where can i get some help
(info.,basics,courses,your help hhh...  )
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Pavel
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Posted : May 23, 2004 21:02
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Hey Eliran, we all have these problems. I have the same problem for a lot of time now. And the best advice that was already given here and i totally agree on it is: find a partner!
And another advices:
Try to get rid of all the stuff that can harm your workflow. Even little stuff like mouse or keyboard can fuck up a good music flow. You mustn't get cheap with it. I see some friends of mine working with state of the art computers and use a lousy 30 Shekel Mouse. This is wrong! Get yourself a good and comfy mouse. And you'll see some stuff moving on. Same goes for Screen, chair and furniture in the room. It HAS to be comfortable.
That's how i see it anyways
Good luck!
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motorik
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Posted : May 23, 2004 21:22
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Pavel you are so right ....feeling comfort with your studio is so important to the flow especially for pople like us who sit hours and hours infront of the comupter and trying to make a few channels come together and become a live kickin' track.
P.S. Das fung really want to be your mature old friend/partner....let him be
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : May 23, 2004 21:42
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i see it a little like this.,
if you want to reach your goal then you need to go over a lot of moutains.,
and sometimes you are at the top of a mountain and you can see your goal in the distance and you see that you need to go over many more moutains.,
and sometimes you go down the mountain and everyhing goes ok and you speed up and do cool things.,
and then you have to climb the next moutain., and that's hard., especially because you know there are more mountains and you can't see the goal anymore.,
but then you are at the top of another moutain and you see your goal again and know in which direction to go.,,
and i think this process continiues untill you reach your goal,.,
i have felt this in many different ways.,
learning is always about restructuring., invening your inner self again.,
going from something to nothing, back to something new.,.
so what you are experiencing is just a phase of the learning process,,.
it can be good to take a break., it gives your brains the time to take everything you have learned and give it new direction.,. then you start seing things in a new way.,
anyway, don't worry., let it flow., if music is natural to you (and i think it is because you started it so early) then it will all come back twice as hard as it went away and you will understand things on a new level..,
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Triptocoma
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Posted : May 23, 2004 22:17
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Hey!
Dont let a technique like mastering put you off!
I will make an analogy,(comparison)
just right about now i hade wrote you a post, and by accident clicked "back" so all the text disapeard, thats sad, cause it was some interesting words..
but i dont give up, i write to you again, 
so its all about keep trying, keep working...
Compression is a difficult thing to get your head around, even i dont understand compressors fully, all you can do is work with them and fiddle around while also reading guides on a frequent basis, some day some of that difficult information that you might have a hard time to understand will stand clear for your mind, it can be just a tiny detail that is missing in the puzzle to not get the full picture...
To finish a track you just got to give it time and soul, you want the track to be done and you want it to sound good, so you use all your experience to make it good, and all your passion! Giving it time also means that you have to be ready for mental blockings, sometimes it just dosent feel right to work, then you should take a break, rest your thoughts and let them smooth out, and think positve, do something you like, eat tasty food, treat your self like a king
when it feels right again go back and tweak, what you dont like you should get rid of, dont be affraid, ditch it or save the sound for later...sometimes some sounds dont match and its up to you to prioritize! thats important when you build a song, contrast and variation, both rytmic and soundwise. im sure you are very aware of this, but its good to refresh your mind once in a while...
I rarely finish any tracks, but i feel im on a roll right now and i will try to finish a couple and see how it feels  it has been for me like that before and it goes in waves,(soundwaves ) each step you change in some way, maybe you have gained a new technique or came to insight about a certain thing... its all so different, just have fun and make something you want to hear!
anyway
If you like something, and you think its ok, think twice... as a matter of fact think 10 times over and over again.
It can be very good to have a palette of sounds before you start your project(journey)
Some people have a big collection of recorded sounds and all kinds of parts, that they cut and paste and tweak beyond recognition, i always try to make fresh material, but i still have a growing collection of tweaked and recorded sounds, but most of the time i like to begin and work with midi and later export choosen sounds,
what need to be thought about is the big amount of sounds you need, to make a 7-10 min track, the amount of variation to make it interesting and so on... so you need to think and reflect and not say to often "i will do that later" best thing is to do it as fast as possible and keep working! im that kind of guy that sits too long before anything happens, and i really have to discipline my self to get things done. So before you get bored, start working
So under the creation part, try to get as many parts together as possible, and those sounds you are happy with you should export to audio... and tweak your synths some more, fit everything together!
One more ting! before you think quality, think musical content first, dont make it a mess and throw everything out like a mad man when you create, be orginized then you will be albe to fine adjust everything in the end, and be as picky as you can, but you need it all fleshed out before you can do so...
also try to get feedback on your work, other ideas mixed with your own can become very powerful!
so keep up the spirit and work hard
laters..
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eliran17
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Posted : May 24, 2004 14:06
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hi every one
i came in today to view my topic and its gradually growing which is great tnx hhh
i checked every post here and evryones realy helping me with sharing your point of view.
there was one word which catched my attention and that word is :"discipline"
and your totaly right i need to work on my self-discipline and try harder.
i dont have big amount and acsses to recources and tools but in the few i've already got i try to optimize for the best.
i feel comftreble at where i'm doing my music but i'm not able to spend so many houres on music right now (school etc.)
but still there is no second from the day (or nighet hhh ) that i 'm not thinking on how to perfectionize my work (even the smallest thing)
i have to work alot on my thechnique of work and to find the righet stages while the track is beeing built.
i think it whould come to me in time.
last words hhh (i get the feeling i start to bug ppl here hhh sorry)
i'm looking for a partner and i think together it will be alot more easy for me
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