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Posted : Sep 22, 2012 03:30:43
Hi, good day, I was trying to make a track, but I have a problem, my speakers are really shitty,and just in one section of the track, my speaker starts to shake, it must be the low frequencies I think, Its when im using a filter to modulate some noises I got, and the speaker starts to shake like a saltshaker! but its only my speaker, cuz if I listen to it in my headphones, I dont get that effect, so I have no idea if its cuz my speaker is to old and cheap or there are some extra frequencies sounding there, like to much bass, any advice on the matter? the problem appears right from min. 4:53 to 5:06, any ideas on how to fix that? or if the problem actually exists? Thanks in advance!!! have a great friday!!
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Posted : Sep 22, 2012 03:53
Don't have my sub here to help you out but:
Probably you've set the resonance high in the low pass filter, effectively boosting the low frequencies. If this is true, you really need to take this in account. One time I played an old track of mine, forgot to clean it up and didn't do it when I rendered it, and I made the speakers dance all over the place! Had to manually lower it, but the problem was in the sub frequencies and not all the bass.. Did you high pass your tune?
Also, you could of found the resonance point of your speakers / table / something, which means, it vibrates at a certain frequency. Just changing some variables would help this (speaker position, for example), but then it's not actually related with an error in the tune, but a studio set up error..
Either ways, you can still figure out yourself whats happening: try cutting out the bass ion that section and see if it resolves the issue, try limiting the bass in that section for an equal result, and try to find the frequency that's doing this and cut it out with an EQ.
Play a sine wave and sweep it slowly, like this you can have a single frequency playing, and you can isolate some problems with your studio setup.
Last tip: have a secondary listening unit. It's great to have this directly in your studio, so you can A/B them, but it could be a HiFi stereo in your living room, a friends speakers, or your car (if your track has an error, it should really make a big BOOM in your car)
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Posted : Sep 22, 2012 04:09
cheap/old speakers will everytime shake once you get the sub freqs kicking, so that's really not a 'technical issue' it's more like a pain in the ass when hearing stuff from yellow speakers
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Posted : Sep 22, 2012 04:55
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On 2012-09-22 03:53, knocz wrote:
Don't have my sub here to help you out but:
Probably you've set the resonance high in the low pass filter, effectively boosting the low frequencies. If this is true, you really need to take this in account. One time I played an old track of mine, forgot to clean it up and didn't do it when I rendered it, and I made the speakers dance all over the place! Had to manually lower it, but the problem was in the sub frequencies and not all the bass.. Did you high pass your tune?
Also, you could of found the resonance point of your speakers / table / something, which means, it vibrates at a certain frequency. Just changing some variables would help this (speaker position, for example), but then it's not actually related with an error in the tune, but a studio set up error..
Either ways, you can still figure out yourself whats happening: try cutting out the bass ion that section and see if it resolves the issue, try limiting the bass in that section for an equal result, and try to find the frequency that's doing this and cut it out with an EQ.
Play a sine wave and sweep it slowly, like this you can have a single frequency playing, and you can isolate some problems with your studio setup.
Last tip: have a secondary listening unit. It's great to have this directly in your studio, so you can A/B them, but it could be a HiFi stereo in your living room, a friends speakers, or your car (if your track has an error, it should really make a big BOOM in your car)
I highpass just that part! but cool tips man thanks! Im going to try eq on that part to see what hapens or a compressor but thanks alot man!!and the speaker position its a really cool idea!! thanks again!! peace!!!
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Posted : Sep 22, 2012 05:01
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On 2012-09-22 04:09, psyraal wrote:
cheap/old speakers will everytime shake once you get the sub freqs kicking, so that's really not a 'technical issue' it's more like a pain in the ass when hearing stuff from yellow speakers
yeah!!. Its the subwoofer what is shaking!!so it most be what you say, about shaky old speakers, but thatks for listening man!!! have a great day!!!Boom!!!
it sounds fine to me, and thats on my head phones and monitors, as for eqing the low end, id really just focus most on the sub frequencies (35hz and below etc..) that will tighten up the bass and cut out any unwanted sub frequencies that might arise... good thing for live stuff too since the live subs are usually pretty sensitive to low end already hehe.
i think the low end is fine, especially comparing to other things in the track that are done less good.
the leads are pretty quiet. they need to be closer to listener, with 'in your face' feeling. try compressing them a bit more, try some compressor with auto make up gain like Rvox.
I would position the (boring copypasted) lead that starts around 1:45 in the center, to give it more power and attention
you may leave it in stereo since the break @ 2:39 so it wont clash with your next lead.
also dont hipass things like leads that much. leave them breathe more.
you don't have any percussion until about 1:45 - until that the rhythm is really boring.
i believe after you manage your mid and high freq ranges the low end will sit in its place at once.
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Posted : Sep 23, 2012 01:22
Cool man thanks a lot for that review! it was really helpfull!! I would denitely work on these areas! Thanks a lot man!! I really appreciate it!! The best vibes!!