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need some advice about connecting monitors

Vibe Tribe
Vibe Tribe

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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 12:33
hi to all!

we got a new pear of moitors

active ones...

thy have 3 options of input.

Phone, RCA and XLR..

at the moment they connected thrue the rca, is there any diffrence between the 3 inputs?

if yes, what the best one.?

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High Pulse
Darkpsy

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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 12:38
well not much diferente if there isn't any difference .. but its bether conect them via XLR is a more strong input more durability . but i think they are all the same .. now attention in what thing .. this RCA can ben SPDIF .. if so .. spdif is always a good option ehehehe

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daniel duarte
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 15:20
When I studied Electronics, my teacher always said that Xlr is best for high voltage inputs (ex: connecting PA's)

If using small voltage inputs RCA is the best, as the loss's are almost zero.
daniel duarte
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 15:28
Oh, and Analog talked about SPDIF.. It's a good option, but you'd need a digital/analog converter.

I remember some Roland monitors that besides the amp, they also included a D/A converter inside.
fuzzikitten
Annunaki

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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 17:25
I found my RCA inputs on my monitors were noticeably dirtier than the 1/4" that I'm using now.

I'm not sure what you mean by phone (maybe 1/4"?), but in my experience I found a slight improvement in sound quality by going to the better inputs. The RCAs would occasionally crackle, though this could have been due to my converter plugs (1/4 to rca).

If the RCA sounds good then it sounds good. But if you get crackling you might want to try one of the other inputs.

-Alex
tryptic


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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 18:04
Hi,
It is best to use the XLR as they are balanced meaning you will suffer far less noise due to interference. (Providing your mixer/soundcard has balanced outputs). They are also more sturdy.. they are by far the best. Also... isn't phono the same as RCA? If you mean 1/4" jacks then they are probably unbalanced but I think you do sometimes get balanced 3-pole versions.
Trip-
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 17:18
XLR should be the best choice for less noise, but with 1 meter distance hardly any noise will catch up.

I would use XLR just cause they are firm and never lose.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
daniel duarte
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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 19:12
But guys,

He's sending a small voltage Output wich will only later be amplified inside the speakers.

Is XLR really the best solution for non amplified streams ?
s0ft
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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 19:13
i started a topic on the different connections a little while back ... maybe there will be some useful info in there... maybe not.


http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/48817/forum/2
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 22:32
rca-not ballanced
xlr-ballanced and better
why?
i dont have a clue... this soundengineer guy told me...           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
UnderTow


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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 22:40
Quote:

On 2004-12-22 19:12, daniel duarte wrote:
But guys,

He's sending a small voltage Output wich will only later be amplified inside the speakers.

Is XLR really the best solution for non amplified streams ?



Yep. Good XLR cables (with high CMRR values) plugged into properly balanced sockets will cancel out most interference. As you say, the signal only gets amplified in the monitors (if they are powered) so you want to have as little interference as possible.

As for the cable only being 1 meter, alot can happen in 1 meter! Especialy if the cable goes passed the back of a CRT video screen or something like that.

But of course, your sound card/console outputs need to be either XLR or TRS balanced jacks with a "converter" cable. (TRS on one end, XLR on the other)

UnderTow
tryptic


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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 12:12
Quote:

On 2004-12-22 22:32, tsabeat wrote:
rca-not ballanced
xlr-ballanced and better
why?
i dont have a clue... this soundengineer guy told me...




Have a read of this for an explaination...
http://www.tracertek.com/newway/balanced.pdf
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