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Need advice to work with reversed stuff

woyzeck


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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 18:43
I'm working with reversed samples, like reversed snares, which is one or two beats long or even less than a beat long. Every time I need to adjust that samples to precisely fit onto the mix so that the end of each sample finishes exactly where the next bar begins. As I use Cubase, I have to change to User Quantize, increase the zoom and drag each sample carefully. A boring work.

I was searching for a more simple and productive solution and the first idea which come to my mind was to enlarge every sample, adding silence to the front so that each sample occupies exact a full bar or at least a full beat. Cubase can do that but probably some manual adjustment must be done, isn't? So I believe this approach it's not so practical as I was thinking...

I have inspected NI Intakt and FXPansion GURU, searching for a really automated way to resolve this. Apparently no one allow me to enlarge samples and did not find anything else in theses programs which could help me.

How do you work around this problem?

Alex
Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 18:48
Put the sample going in the normal direction at the start of a bar.

'draw' an audio part into the same audio part as the sample somewhere else in the track for exactly one bar.

Drag the new, empty audio over the sample. Click it with the glue tool.

You should now see the audio sample within the empty bar as one part.

Audio >> Bounce Selection.

Replace events? >> Yes -- when prompted.

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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 19:22
You can drag the quantise point ('Q' point) of a sample to anywhere inside the sample; the sample will now quantise from that point. So if you drag the Q-point to the very very end of the sample (you'll probably need to zoom right in to get it right at the very end, but it's much quicker than moving the entire sample) then quantise to bars, the sample will move so the end is exactly on the bar. If you lose the Q-point, locate SX to somewhere inside the sample, select it, right-click: Audio -> Set Q-point to cursor.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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woyzeck


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Posted : Jun 9, 2007 05:45
Very, very thanks. Both advices are really helpful.

Colin, the suggestion of dragging Q Points looks like the perfect solution to working with the reversed audio material that I currently dispose on my tracks! I'm just coming back to Cubase help to better understand this.

Speakafreaka, your advice looks like the perfect solution to start working in new reversed audio from a normal direction audio. I never thought about such original use of the Glue tool!

Thanks again,

Alex
ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Jun 9, 2007 20:34
WOW... Very complex answers... Here´s mine:

If the reversed sample is way too long, then it´s so easy. USe the "Sizing ove contents" tool, and just drag back the end of the sample. May need a fade in.

If teh reversed sample is too short: Unlit the snap function, and place the sample to pass little bit the point u want it to finish. Then again use the "Sizing move contents" tool, lit the snap again and drag back the end of file. At this case, u can realise that the start of the sample is not exactly quantized(as u move it without snap). For this, just draw a little box starting where the sample would start, select the box+sample and just bounce it(or glue).           LOADING...
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