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Muzik or BPM ??? ----- I ask you ... !!!

"42"
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Posted : Apr 10, 2008 17:22:48
Well, ofcourse there are many other music schools...

So, which one would you recommand? Why?

Did you take any course? Where? Would you recommand?
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 10, 2008 17:43
please provide links to the specific course

and tell us what is your goal with this study ?
is it DJ or produce your own music or to be mastering engineer?

and what is Muzik ? never heard of it.. maybe resonance you meen?
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Tomos
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Posted : Apr 10, 2008 18:35
If you aren't going for the 3/4 year degree (or equivalent qualification) then I would say that it isn't worth while doing the shorter courses.

You can learn everything they teach at the basic level qualification by reading the internet and a few well selected books.

Having done the SAE short course, I know.

C3PO
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Posted : Apr 10, 2008 20:28
I've heard most of the teachers who work in both schools mentioned in the first post, haven't finished a single tune lol. Waste of time and money imo.           >>> FOR SALE: Mac-clone OSX86 Audio Workstation <> Perfect computer for Logic 9 Pro <<<
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0hz
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Posted : Apr 10, 2008 22:09
i agree with c3po, i finished 2 years at yoav gera sound school, i and i tell you it a weist of money. u can learn all they teach alone and in less time. the only thing that was good is that u have access to equipment but still its not worth the money u pay.
also the teachers there are underpayed and not pro enought to teach u something usefull.
Deranger
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 00:29
c3po it's not true , ex. for teachers in bpm are X-noize , Sub6 , Astrix
i'm not sure if it's worth the money, but i prefer to buy something usefull like a nord lead or good monitors.you can always search the web for info about any subject you need.
Mike A
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 01:04
Yea. For the money you spend on studies you can actually go and buy some really decent geat.
I mean, x-noize, sub6 and astrix didn't study there before they became producers. You don't HAVE to do it. Learn alone, and if you can't do it - even a school won't help you.
klippel
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 10:16
ähm...

techno has no way better production... i dj´d techno for 8 years before is changed trains and endend up with psy...

i have friends who dj drum´n´bass and there is some very strong production as well! some dj techno, with partly strong produced stuff there. i myself dj psy and am very confident about the production level here.... i would say:

there is something like 10% top notch production in EACH genre. 80 average. 10% crappy.

however, psy most of the time sounds crystal clear wheras techno often has harsh sounds.. so i don´t really get it how someone would say techno has better production...

of course trancey minimal house or what ever u wanna call it is often very phat in production... but then, where is the line between trance/house/techno at that point?

as mentioned above a lot of psy acts have prog house sideacts or change after a while to minimal in order to get some cash ;-)

anyway,strong production does not rely to specific genre..

just my 0.02$


Mike A
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 11:17
klippel, wong thread i guess?
shachar
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 15:27
theres another option of private schooling
theres some producers who do it.. i have few students myself.
"42"
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 16:41
These are the courses +- ...

First 2 are BPM school, last 2 are Muzik.
If anyone has any other recomandations I'de love to hear...

1 - http://www.bpm-music.com/inner.asp?newsid=104

2 - http://www.bpm-music.com/inner.asp?newsid=100

3 - http://www.muzik.co.il/coursesInner.asp?maslul_id=1056&course_id=1057

4 - http://www.muzik.co.il/coursesInner.asp?maslul_id=297&course_id=507           https://soundcloud.com/avivtech
vipal
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 19:49
Quote:

On 2008-04-10 18:35, Tomos wrote:
If you aren't going for the 3/4 year degree (or equivalent qualification) then I would say that it isn't worth while doing the shorter courses.

You can learn everything they teach at the basic level qualification by reading the internet and a few well selected books.

Having done the SAE short course, I know.




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"42"
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 21:41
I know that even 1 course could lead into meatting new people from the industry and colaberation with other minds more expirienced then mine...! so what can be more helpful than that..?? am I wrong?

I must say that after reading the posts about buying equipment instead of paying 4 school, really made me think...
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vipal
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Posted : Apr 13, 2008 20:38
using cash for buying hardware and for learning directly from an experienced psyproducer if possible and then investing time for using the internet while constantly producing tracks i would consider the way to go as long as your budget is not over 5000 dollars or so.

but thats just my opinion.
MadScientist
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Posted : Apr 13, 2008 21:00
well, it totally depends on what you want to do...do you want to work in the business or do you just want to make better psy at home?           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

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