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moki
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Posted : Jan 12, 2009 16:57
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Mubali,
well, i can actually easily imagine that i can write the pitch viariation of 8 seminotes as score. i dont know if you read the topic about the 432 hz tuning, probably not because it was too much off topic inside, but the principle is, as far as i am informed :
ein semitone is 32 pitch units. is this right? i saw it here : http://www.planetware.de/download/Stimmdaten.pdf
so why not write it as score? it sounds very logical and simple to me....as well as vibrato too...it seems simple to programm it for me.
and btw about forgetting sound design: i have no clue about sound design, believe me, i have a big respect for those who have it. really! i am not the sort of ppl to be mad about djs and lives, simply because i know that many of them have no clue about music and only pretend to be the big artists and musicians ( the scene is full of such wanna be stars), but about the sound design or mastering or whatever other field like that, i have such incredible respect. how do you do it, it is incredible. i will need some time to learn it.
so i cant forget something that i dont have e clue about, yet.
psytiax: well i dont have a midi keyboard right now. i only have a normal keyboard right now. it is funny because i know so many ppl who have it, and they are literally analphabets about music. so many ppl have bought their studio stuff but have no clue about music really. i find this quite paradoxal. and i really need a midi keyboard at home. i just concentrated on doing other things in this scene like visuals, because simply there was noone or quite few ppl who do conceptualised visuals, so i thought i can do the job but actually i should have invested my money and time in what really interests me.. the music....so i have no midi keyboard right now....to see it.....and experiment
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Brain_Train
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Posted : Jan 12, 2009 17:39
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well, you can get a midi keyboard for under 100 euros...sure it depends on what you want in terms of quality, but simple and cheap midi keyboards from m-audio for example just work fine.
just take a look at the prices at thomann.de, there you also have the possibility to try them for 30 days and send them back if you don't like them.
if music is really that important to you and you can play keyboard, i think 60-100 euros aren't that much money... |
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Spycht
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Posted : Jan 12, 2009 21:32
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If you have no MIDI Keyboard do you have a synth? If you have no synth how do you expect what you play to sound ANYTHING like what's written in these scores? I might understand something very melodical to be somewhat coherent but you've slowly gotten out that you're looking for dark pieces which are far from having melody. Do you really desire to sit in front of a keyboard playing atonal garbage with a piano tone?
I vote 432 hz tuning stays the hell out of this. |
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moki
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Posted : Jan 13, 2009 00:43
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no i dont desire, it is just the situation right now, because i am far from any friend with equipment right now, i changed the city. i desire to have midi keyboard, and i would like to have a good one, because i need some space for experimenting and this small toys are not for me. but what i desire, doesnt always happen . as soon as i can afford a good midi keyboard and a synth i will get it.
now what i want is actually no more explanations i just wanna have a glimpse at any row file, i.e. project file. i would just like to open it. this is all. is this a difficult thing to get?
dark pieces have the pitch. whatever you mean with dark pieces, because dark is a wide term to me. but anyway i just wanna have a glimpse at the rectangles. i am interested to do it. dont know why i have to read in every third post that i dont need to have it.
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moki
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Posted : Jan 13, 2009 12:10
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no, people seriously, tell me please, is it usually difficult to get the project file? are they afraid to give it away? are they afraid that if i get it, i can do their live instead of them??????? just go with the rectangles and make a small nice half presequenced live to collect some money for my synths:)))))))))). is it so, is it normally kept in secret? tell me that pleast, i need to know it so that i can spend my time at the right place askking for a project file face to face then.
i only got one project file some time ago, and the artist told me never to say anyone else that i got it! so if someone is so friendly to give me a project file, please right to me in private, i will never say a word ever. and i promise not to go and make your live instead of you:))))) but may be i can turn your tuning pitch to the right place of 432 hertz and tune to the cosmic pitch instead. it will be such fun!!! anyway, right to me in private if you wanna give away a project file, i will never show it to anyone and i will make my best to keep the energy balanced as a thanks.
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Becktrank
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 04:21
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Okay, i m new in here, and have a simple question and silly question, but i m crying baby in the psytrance production and i need to start by the beggining (of course =D)
How important is music theory to produce psytrance?
[]`s and peace |
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Luis M.
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 05:02
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Music theory is important to produce any style of music that incorporates melody, harmony, etc...
There is something called "Musique Concrete"
It's about making music without real instruments, like the sounds of nature, muchines crackling, the sound of a door.. If you work in this way,something experimental, there is not a big need to learn about notation and related stuff..
The same as if you are making stuff like techno, which is about perc. loops and robotic stuff, (not all techno though, but you know what i mean)
It's up to you how u want to paint your picture!
If you paint it grey, it's more about technique and twisting stuff..
If you paint it with many colors, you DEFENETLY need to learn some music theory..
I am sure the answer is in your head by now.
Don't stress, make some music and study the website i am going to provide below..
You don't need to study everything, but something you sure need for start is some knowlege on scales(so that you know what notes u are going to use and the root key of your song) and chords.
Elements of composition: (what i can think of right now!)
Percussion
Harmony
Melody
Structure
Check some of the lessons, they are very well easy to learn.. "www.musictheory.net"
There are loads of nice websites, books etc... but try this one and see how u do...
Peace
 "As The Mind so the Man"
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Becktrank
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Posted : Jan 15, 2009 08:59
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Thanks bro, and sure the answer is in my head, that`s why i started studyng theory in first place, and even if i never produce any psy, it has been great learning keyboard, i always wanted know how to play any instrument intead of only bongos hehe
It`s nice to hear melodies done by your hands.
I was learning just by the internet but i bought i basic book this week, also my father plays, he always give me some tips and teach me some songs, but he only plays by his ear and doesnt know anything or very little about theory, what`s incredible, if he listen to any music he can do it right after on the keyboard, i wish i get there one day!
By the way thanks by the site i will take a look over there.
[]`s
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moki
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 15:03
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i like this site. it is nice and very pleasant and simple.
and yes touching the keys with the fingers is incredible pleasure. it is just the pleasure of doing it, and not the pleasure of having done it. a big difference between both.
but still exprimenting is simply stupid if you dont know which keys correspond to which keys to make a harmonic. theory is important. very important......
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illusions
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Posted : Jan 23, 2009 17:10
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Moki: Why do you have to take over every damn thread on Isratrance, add your spiritual mumbo jumbo and generally act ignorant ? This is a nice thread about music theory, if you want to talk about how badly you want to see someone elses midi files - start a new one. |
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moki
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Posted : Jan 23, 2009 18:02
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 . oh my god.
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Rottweiler
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Posted : Jan 23, 2009 18:06
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Moki.Time.Wave.Zero , you are really-really irritating with this over-the-top pretentious behaviour. |
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moki
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Posted : Jan 23, 2009 18:08
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another one.
really really irritating.
oh my god, now i am sure i might have another message of arafela, but i will follow myself rather than conformity. how stupid you must be. you dont even get it. i clicked on the erebus myspace, i see you are nice guy, and i actually dont like to be rude to nice guys, but i will be this time. where do you fucking see a spiritual mumbo jumbo on this thread????????? i mean really how stupid you must be????????????????????
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acidkills
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Posted : Jan 23, 2009 18:24
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I told ya, just mentioning 432 brings spirituality in the topic and u wouldnt believe, now u see... Its so spiritual that even Moki without a midi wants to spiritualize somebody elses stuff.. I would be glad to give u my stuff for u too spiritualize but that would spoil all the fun for me doing it :-P
http://www.myspace.com/djacidkills
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moki
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Posted : Jan 23, 2009 18:37
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well anyway i think there was only one person here to whom i said something and it was mubali. just because he passed through the topic. and so fucking what. really, what if you just fucking disappear from my ield of sight finally???????????????????????? i dont remember to have brought the 432hz but if i did, so fucking what. can you leave me with you pretentions about stupidity and the need of my posts? i really like nice guys and i guess i would be more intelligent outside of the forum but here you are just so ridiculous. spiritual mambo jumbo bla bla bla, what can i do that none of you has done high university mathematics and studied music? just fucking leave me with your spiritual mumbo jummbo, if wannted to write about spirituality, i would go to another section. gth
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